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I somewhat agree with this take, although this isn't the result of the shallowness and ignorance of our collective society, but rather the shallowness and ignor

I somewhat agree with this take, although this isn't the result of the shallowness and ignorance of our collective society, but rather the shallowness and ignorance of the people at the top of society. Most people just want to get by, we don't "allow" amazon to keep growing, they keep growing because of the monopolisation mechanics of our capitalist society. You can be repulsed by amazon all you like, but until there's a viable competitor they'll continue to do what they do. Perhaps we need to hit the reset button on capitalism altogether and reevaluate what it means to be a company, to have human centred capitalism rather than profit focused capitalism. Maybe we'll be forced to move in that direction anyway, because of the social and environmental affects that we see today.

buffet_overflow 5y ago
Agreed that it's difficult to responsibility of these companies on the individual. There's a background assumption that "if they exist in this form, they are allowed", otherwise, what are the US government (regulatory functions) doing? Another reason it's difficult to impossible to collectively fight back is when you read articles about how Amazon strongarms companies into never undercutting the price on the Amazon storefront. It adds an insidious reason to "wow the manufacturer is so silly, it's cheaper on Amazon with free shipping than on their own website!" when in reality it's a dark pattern we don't control and a vast majority don't think about as they "get by".
- lnxg33k1 5y ago
  I agree with you on the part of the regulators allowing certain entities to exist in a determinate way. But I also feel the need to be responsible towards what Amazon does, if it is making employees pee in a bottle, it is making me pee in a bottle because I am part of this society. If its truck to transport stuff around are destroying the roads and not contributing back with taxes, it is destroying MY roads. So I make the choice to dodge anything that is even slightly related to that company, and it is a choice that doesn't take bravery, it is not that they are the only source of water and I can't live without it. I think we as individuals need to make the choices to detach ourselves from certain entities, without expecting third party to make the choice for us or protect us, which if it happens is good, and we should vote for it, but if it doesn't we are still responsible to hold ourselves accountable for our own choices and what those choice enable to exist And I would put the responsibility of certain things to exist on the individual, because it is the individual that makes these entities to exist and evolve, each one has to be true to its values and do things it feel are worthy to be true to itself Sorry for grammar I am italian and english is not my first language

buffet_overflow 5y ago

Agreed that it's difficult to responsibility of these companies on the individual. There's a background assumption that "if they exist in this form, they are allowed", otherwise, what are the US government (regulatory functions) doing? Another reason it's difficult to impossible to collectively fight back is when you read articles about how Amazon strongarms companies into never undercutting the price on the Amazon storefront. It adds an insidious reason to "wow the manufacturer is so silly, it's cheaper on Amazon with free shipping than on their own website!" when in reality it's a dark pattern we don't control and a vast majority don't think about as they "get by".

lnxg33k1 5y ago
I agree with you on the part of the regulators allowing certain entities to exist in a determinate way. But I also feel the need to be responsible towards what Amazon does, if it is making employees pee in a bottle, it is making me pee in a bottle because I am part of this society. If its truck to transport stuff around are destroying the roads and not contributing back with taxes, it is destroying MY roads. So I make the choice to dodge anything that is even slightly related to that company, and it is a choice that doesn't take bravery, it is not that they are the only source of water and I can't live without it. I think we as individuals need to make the choices to detach ourselves from certain entities, without expecting third party to make the choice for us or protect us, which if it happens is good, and we should vote for it, but if it doesn't we are still responsible to hold ourselves accountable for our own choices and what those choice enable to exist And I would put the responsibility of certain things to exist on the individual, because it is the individual that makes these entities to exist and evolve, each one has to be true to its values and do things it feel are worthy to be true to itself Sorry for grammar I am italian and english is not my first language