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This is by design. Israel and spent years associating the _state_ of Israel with Judaism. That way you can’t criticize Israel without being labeled and anti-Je
by literallyWTF 5y ago
This is by design. Israel and spent years associating the _state_ of Israel with Judaism.
That way you can’t criticize Israel without being labeled and anti-Jewish semite. Nothing he posted was offensive. Israel is an apartheid state
- ciisforsuckas 5y agoand billions of dollars
- MattGaiser 5y ago> Nothing he posted was offensive. > “If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself” How about that?
- literallyWTF 5y agoAs I said, Israel conflates being a Jew with the state of Israel. And as such, people associate Israel with Judaism. That’s not offensive if it’s by design. You can’t have your cake and eat it to. Israel is an apartheid state.
- AndrewUnmuted 5y agoAnyone writing something so inflammatory ought to approach this topic with more nuance though. If you're willing to write that you should also be willing to get it right, from a purely factual perspective.
- myfavoritedog 5y agoIt doesn't matter how much Israel attempts to conflate Zionism with Judaism. Pre-judging all Jews because of it is antisemitic.
- mistermann 5y ago> You can’t have your cake and eat it to. With skillful public relations and political lobbying you can, at least to a very large degree.
- bushbaba 5y agoApartheid not by any definition that’s accepted broadly. israel just formed a coalition government with the Arab Israelis.
- jcranmer 5y agoIt would not be entirely far-fetched to compare the status of Arab Israelis with the status of Coloureds in South Africa during late apartheid: Coloureds had some rights (including enfranchisement well before Blacks did), more than Blacks did, but were still pretty systematically discriminated against compared to Whites. In Israel right now, Arab Israelis have fewer rights than Jewish Israelis do--notably in land rights, where pre-1967 land ownership claims are only legally recognized if you're Jewish, not Arab. That a coalition government has just now been formed with an Arab Israeli party for the first time in Israel's history, largely because it's the only way a coalition could be formed that doesn't include Netanyahu, doesn't invalidate the fact that legal discrimination still exists in Israel, let alone Israel's blatantly illegal actions vis-à-vis Palestine.
- Udik 5y agoThe real apartheid in Israel is not against its Arab population (although by various means a good part of it doesn't even have citizenship). The real apartheid is what happens in the occupied territories, where Jews enjoy all the benefits and protection of their citizenship while Arabs are deprived of any rights.
- themaninthedark 5y agoWhat he posted is literately a rephrased version "The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you"
- timkam 5y agoYes, there is an association and a Head of Diversity should be smart enough to not generalize based on this association; it's failure to satisfy the core requirement of the professional role.
- ranman 5y agoWell it was published 14 years ago. He was probably in college or something when he wrote it. Not giving him a pass or anything, just pointing out he didn’t write in while in his current role.
- NateEag 5y agoIf he had ever changed that view you'd really hope he would have gone back and updated that essay.
- politician 5y agoIf he even remembered writing it. I have no idea what I wrote 14 years ago, whether its online, or where online it might be.
- NateEag 5y agoLosing track of what I've written on my own personal blog seems really unlikely to me, despite havig a terrible memory, but I gues it's possible.
- kickoman 5y agoSorry for offtop, but I'm refusing to believe that 2007 was 14 years ago
- zmk_ 5y agoEveryone should know 10 years in advance to write nuanced posts.
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- lawnchair_larry 5y ago> Israel is an apartheid state It’s easy to spot people who know less than nothing about the situation when this word shows up. Israel is literally not an apartheid state. “Palestine” is literally an apartheid state. This is a demonstration of supreme ignorance.
- rufus_foreman 5y ago>> Israel is an apartheid state Definition of apartheid: "a rigid former policy of segregating and economically and politically oppressing the nonwhite population" Arabs and Jews are both white but I am guess that in your analogy you are referring to segregation of those groups, correct me if I misinterpreted your specific version of propaganda. In apartheid South Africa, whites and blacks didn't live in the same areas and blacks couldn't vote. Taking a look at the countries around Israel, in Egypt there used to be 100,000 Jews, they were mostly forced out by president Nasser, there are less than 20 left today. There are no Jews in Saudi Arabia. During the Gulf War when US military forces were stationed there, the Saudis allowed Christian worship services but prohibited Jewish worship services for the military personnel, Jews had to hold services in ships offshore. There are no Jews in Jordan. There are less than 20 Jews in Syria. There are around 100 Jews in Lebanon. There are 1,900,000 Arabs in Israel, that is around 20% of the population. They have full voting rights, around 16% of the parliament in Israel are Arabs. They enjoy full civil rights. Describing Israel as an apartheid state is anti-Jewish, and it is ridiculous.
- amadeuspagel 5y ago> Definition of apartheid: "a rigid former policy of segregating and economically and politically oppressing the nonwhite population" I find this a very curious definition. Why should the skin color of the oppressed population matter? Googling it returns this dictionary entry[1]: > (in the Republic of South Africa) a rigid former policy of segregating and economically and politically oppressing the nonwhite population. > any system or practice that separates people according to color, ethnicity, caste, etc. So the definition you quoted only applies in the context of South Africa, in general apartheid refers to any system or practice that separates people according to color, ethnicity, caste, etc.. [1]: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/apartheid https://www.dictionary.com/browse/apartheid
- rufus_foreman 5y ago>> I find this a very curious definition The word apartheid is an Afrikaans word (Afrikaans is a Germanic language spoken in South Africa) that was used as an election slogan by a South African political party that implemented complete segregation and racial classification in South Africa in the 1950s. If you are not making a specific comparison to the former racial policies of South Africa, there are better words to use. Although I know over time, meanings change, so that words like anti-Semitic, racist, fascist, etc. all just become synonyms for "bad" or "things I don't like".
- xdennis 5y agoIf the said "Israelis" instead of "Jews" it would still be bigoted AF.