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This is the only instance relating to offensive social media I've ever heard of where someone got reassigned and not fired

by anm89 5y ago

goatinaboat 5y ago
This is the only instance relating to offensive social media I've ever heard of where someone got reassigned and not fired Yes it's very strange isn't it, I wonder what the reason could be
- tasogare 5y ago
  Diversity. As a "divers" he cannot be fired, that would be bad PR.
eplanit 5y ago
He is black, and there is a double-standard -- but don't dare call that racist. It's all absurd, but it's actually good to see examples of "you become the thing you hate". Hate is a horrible, corrosive emotion. We see it a _lot_ these days -- people who become emotionally entangled and lost in their activism against racism (the mob encourages this mindset, as in that state, critical thinking is turned off). They then become hateful and racist themselves. These incidents can hopefully (but doubtfully) cause some reflection about "why the hell do we even have 'diversity officers' in a software company? Maybe we're getting results opposite of what we sought. After all, we created the role with the silly title just to virtue-signal, in the first place."
- KittenInABox 5y ago
  I think you're spreading FUD. People get reassigned instead of fired pretty regularly in response to PR. Please cite sources instead of making conjecture that this was due to race. At least leftists come with sources to back up their claims of racial discrimination, however flimsy the evidence is, it actually exists.
throw1103 5y ago
Should you really be fired for things you said 13 years ago? Also we didn't see the entire context..
- xputer 5y ago
  I think their point is more that people probably shouldn't get fired for saying something offensive as easily as it is done nowadays.
- janeroe 5y ago
  > Should you really be fired for things you said 13 years ago? I think, you shouldn't. Unless you're a head of diversity. Then you must be.
- thereare5lights 5y ago
  Those are the rules the cancel mob came up with. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
- TMWNN 5y ago
  >Also we didn't see the entire context.. The original post is at https://web.archive.org/web/20210602000424/https://www.kamaubobb.com/hidden-blogs/2007/12/if-i-were-a-jew https://web.archive.org/web/20210602000424/https://www.kamau... , including the final paragraph, which begins >If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself.
zuminator 5y ago
Examples of people getting reassigned and not fired: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2018/12/20/orlando-officer-who-called-people-savages-fights-suspension/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2018/12/20/orlando-officer... https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/assistant-principal-at-apalachee-elementary-school-transferred-after-facebook-post-draws-complaints https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/assistant-principal-at-... https://www.wgvunews.org/post/black-detroit-police-officer-reassigned-after-facebook-post https://www.wgvunews.org/post/black-detroit-police-officer-r... https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-ISD-hires-teacher-who-quit-over-racially-charged-Facebook-post-391647591.html https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-ISD-hires-teacher-who... https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/16/sheriffs-chief-of-staff-reassigned-after-facebook-comments-about-andres-guardado/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/16/sheriffs-chief-of-sta...
- anm89 5y ago
  Notice a pattern here? I wasn't talking about cops and teachers who have unions with political clout. Cops have done a hell of a lot worse then go on racist rants just to be reassigned. It's not apples to apples. But just to be over the top obnoxiously clear. I'm talking about the private sector.
  - zuminator 5y ago
    The reason a disproportionate number of these articles are regarding public sector employees is because public institutions are publicly accountable, and therefore generally must respond to a controversy. A private sector firm is under no obligation to state how it is resolving a matter with an employee and may find it advantageous in terms of public image and legal liability to simply not comment if the employee has not been terminated. Having said that, here are a couple of private individuals. Jerry Saltz got away with just an apology after homophobic tweets: https://twitter.com/jerrysaltz/status/1024338014871474176 https://twitter.com/jerrysaltz/status/1024338014871474176 Chris Pratt apologizes after making offensive Instagram post, no major further repurcussions: https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/chris-pratt-signs-apology-to-deaf-community-for-offensive-post-wins-hearts-again/ https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/chris-pratt-signs-apology... Feel free to additionally move the goalposts as you wish, but the point remains that the insinuation that some HN'ers are making that the only possible reason he isn't facing forthwith termination is his race doesn't seem inarguably the case.

This is the only instance relating to offensive social media I've ever heard of where someone got reassigned and not fired

by anm89 5y ago

This is the only instance relating to offensive social media I've ever heard of where someone got reassigned and not fired

goatinaboat 5y ago

This is the only instance relating to offensive social media I've ever heard of where someone got reassigned and not fired Yes it's very strange isn't it, I wonder what the reason could be

tasogare 5y ago
Diversity. As a "divers" he cannot be fired, that would be bad PR.

eplanit 5y ago

He is black, and there is a double-standard -- but don't dare call that racist. It's all absurd, but it's actually good to see examples of "you become the thing you hate". Hate is a horrible, corrosive emotion. We see it a _lot_ these days -- people who become emotionally entangled and lost in their activism against racism (the mob encourages this mindset, as in that state, critical thinking is turned off). They then become hateful and racist themselves. These incidents can hopefully (but doubtfully) cause some reflection about "why the hell do we even have 'diversity officers' in a software company? Maybe we're getting results opposite of what we sought. After all, we created the role with the silly title just to virtue-signal, in the first place."

KittenInABox 5y ago
I think you're spreading FUD. People get reassigned instead of fired pretty regularly in response to PR. Please cite sources instead of making conjecture that this was due to race. At least leftists come with sources to back up their claims of racial discrimination, however flimsy the evidence is, it actually exists.

throw1103 5y ago

Should you really be fired for things you said 13 years ago? Also we didn't see the entire context..

xputer 5y ago
I think their point is more that people probably shouldn't get fired for saying something offensive as easily as it is done nowadays.
janeroe 5y ago
> Should you really be fired for things you said 13 years ago? I think, you shouldn't. Unless you're a head of diversity. Then you must be.
thereare5lights 5y ago
Those are the rules the cancel mob came up with. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
TMWNN 5y ago
>Also we didn't see the entire context.. The original post is at https://web.archive.org/web/20210602000424/https://www.kamaubobb.com/hidden-blogs/2007/12/if-i-were-a-jew https://web.archive.org/web/20210602000424/https://www.kamau... , including the final paragraph, which begins >If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself.

zuminator 5y ago

Examples of people getting reassigned and not fired: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2018/12/20/orlando-officer-who-called-people-savages-fights-suspension/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2018/12/20/orlando-officer... https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/assistant-principal-at-apalachee-elementary-school-transferred-after-facebook-post-draws-complaints https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/assistant-principal-at-... https://www.wgvunews.org/post/black-detroit-police-officer-reassigned-after-facebook-post https://www.wgvunews.org/post/black-detroit-police-officer-r... https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-ISD-hires-teacher-who-quit-over-racially-charged-Facebook-post-391647591.html https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Waco-ISD-hires-teacher-who... https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/16/sheriffs-chief-of-staff-reassigned-after-facebook-comments-about-andres-guardado/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/16/sheriffs-chief-of-sta...

anm89 5y ago
Notice a pattern here? I wasn't talking about cops and teachers who have unions with political clout. Cops have done a hell of a lot worse then go on racist rants just to be reassigned. It's not apples to apples. But just to be over the top obnoxiously clear. I'm talking about the private sector.
- zuminator 5y ago
  The reason a disproportionate number of these articles are regarding public sector employees is because public institutions are publicly accountable, and therefore generally must respond to a controversy. A private sector firm is under no obligation to state how it is resolving a matter with an employee and may find it advantageous in terms of public image and legal liability to simply not comment if the employee has not been terminated. Having said that, here are a couple of private individuals. Jerry Saltz got away with just an apology after homophobic tweets: https://twitter.com/jerrysaltz/status/1024338014871474176 https://twitter.com/jerrysaltz/status/1024338014871474176 Chris Pratt apologizes after making offensive Instagram post, no major further repurcussions: https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/chris-pratt-signs-apology-to-deaf-community-for-offensive-post-wins-hearts-again/ https://www.sammichespsychmeds.com/chris-pratt-signs-apology... Feel free to additionally move the goalposts as you wish, but the point remains that the insinuation that some HN'ers are making that the only possible reason he isn't facing forthwith termination is his race doesn't seem inarguably the case.