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So are we supposed to thank the the Turkish for bringing out Pfizer vaccine?

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
Yay, nationality-based pissing contest... Out of curiousity, this is the earliest research I can find about graphene in Li-Ion batteries: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nl800957b https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nl800957b The researcher names are Korean, Chinese and Japanese, and in the "Supporting Information" window they were affiliated with 2 research institutes in Japan.
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- m_mueller 5y ago
  It’s actually an interesting parallel to how high tech hardware worked 30-40 years ago. Back then you often had fundamental research coming out of the US and brought to market from Japan, as their manufacturing base somehow allowed for more efficient productization. Looks like it has shifted to Japan now being still strong in research, but the manufacturing base is now strongest in China. One thing that I think is so remarkable about Elon’s ventures is him showing that there’s nothing stopping you still to build mass manufacturing efficiently in the West.
  - squarefoot 5y ago
    I wouldn't consider Tesla cars as mass manufactured, and that's a good thing because it's what keeps them ahead of the competition. Prices aside, I think they couldn't even sustain the production numbers required to sell cars to everyone, which is something the competition can easily do. As much as I would like to be able to buy a Tesla, they better not enter that minefield that is mass production.
- anaganisk 5y ago
  No its not, I was trying to make a point, you could read the reply I gave on an another comment. Im not even related in any way to China.
Bayart 5y ago
What does this have to do with anything ? As far as I know, the state of art for manufacturing on both techs happens in Korea, that's it.
- anaganisk 5y ago
  I was trying to say, yes Koreans might be where this was created. But bringing out the product with an application is the context of this. Nobody said Xiaomi invented it. They bought out the tech with batteries, properly applied. They're not like just putting the battery inside a phone. It needs a lot of calibration and also hardware/ software improvements on phone to support it. Why would you thank Koreans for that? Its same as saying we need to thank Turks because Turkish immigrants sequenced the vaccine, sold by Pfizer.

Yay, nationality-based pissing contest... Out of curiousity, this is the earliest research I can find about graphene in Li-Ion batteries: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nl800957b https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nl800957b The researcher names are Korean, Chinese and Japanese, and in the "Supporting Information" window they were affiliated with 2 research institutes in Japan.

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m_mueller 5y ago
It’s actually an interesting parallel to how high tech hardware worked 30-40 years ago. Back then you often had fundamental research coming out of the US and brought to market from Japan, as their manufacturing base somehow allowed for more efficient productization. Looks like it has shifted to Japan now being still strong in research, but the manufacturing base is now strongest in China. One thing that I think is so remarkable about Elon’s ventures is him showing that there’s nothing stopping you still to build mass manufacturing efficiently in the West.
- squarefoot 5y ago
  I wouldn't consider Tesla cars as mass manufactured, and that's a good thing because it's what keeps them ahead of the competition. Prices aside, I think they couldn't even sustain the production numbers required to sell cars to everyone, which is something the competition can easily do. As much as I would like to be able to buy a Tesla, they better not enter that minefield that is mass production.
anaganisk 5y ago
No its not, I was trying to make a point, you could read the reply I gave on an another comment. Im not even related in any way to China.

Bayart 5y ago

What does this have to do with anything ? As far as I know, the state of art for manufacturing on both techs happens in Korea, that's it.

anaganisk 5y ago
I was trying to say, yes Koreans might be where this was created. But bringing out the product with an application is the context of this. Nobody said Xiaomi invented it. They bought out the tech with batteries, properly applied. They're not like just putting the battery inside a phone. It needs a lot of calibration and also hardware/ software improvements on phone to support it. Why would you thank Koreans for that? Its same as saying we need to thank Turks because Turkish immigrants sequenced the vaccine, sold by Pfizer.