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I don't actually use it that often, but when I do use Jira, every action seems to have a noticeable delay. I don't remember it being like that a decade ago. Ma

I don't actually use it that often, but when I do use Jira, every action seems to have a noticeable delay. I don't remember it being like that a decade ago. Maybe there was a big rewrite or two that bloated things up?

cies 5y ago
Jira, hands down. So slow! It's at a point we're looking for alternatives.
- boboche 5y ago
  +10 amen to that. In 13 years it went from something I pushed and installed at every client I helped with business processes, help desk, Dev… to an overbloated frustrating mess to operate and manage. Just changing a dropdown field’s content now is hidden in sublayers that requires a bookmark if you are not toying with that on a daily basis. (not everybody is an actual full time Jira admin, and a Jira admin should’nt have the mental load of an Exchange admin for such an application). Happy to hear about alternatives experiences as well.
  - cosmodisk 5y ago
    "not everybody is an actual full time Jira admin, and a Jira admin should’nt have the mental load of an Exchange admin for such an application". Couldn't agree more. I've got admin rights to quite a few systems, including Exchange, which is a pretty big ship,so to speak. However, having tried Jira it's hands down the most convoluted piece of software I've ever seen. It took me less time to spin up an instance on AWS+ configure its access to the internet than it took to make a few changes on Jira. God knows how they managed to do It.
jkingsbery 5y ago
Every team I was a part of between 2007 and 2014 used Jira, and I pretty much haven't used it since. It was notoriously slow back then.
hughrr 5y ago
JIRA is awful. I notice they dropped the slogan “because you’ve got issues”. Perhaps because it was too close to home
dkarl 5y ago
Jira has been slow and buggy for me for over a decade at companies of every size. When Atlassian loses half its market share overnight to some new competitor, we'll talk about how inevitable it was. Nobody has cracked that nut yet, but they will.
- new_here 5y ago
  Totally. A light UI with some tuned edge caching and you will be golden. There are quite a few competitors popping up, the main issue is that they all seem to be bootstrapped and don't have the funding to make a disruptive marketing splash.
  - dkarl 5y ago
    I feel like the big marketing splash that will push a hot new competitor over the edge will be an acquisition by a big company. "BigCo acquires issue tracking startup X" will be the headline for a week, and they will gain a ton of credibility and momentum, and they will eat Atlassian's lunch. Eventually the big company will ruin them, and we'll end up with another slow and buggy version of Jira, but maybe we'll get a good 5-10 years of the default, ubiquitous issue tracking software being clean and snappy. I'd like to experience that before I retire.
    - cosmodisk 5y ago
      It's not hard to build something like Jira, it's not even that special. However it can be painful to uproot it once installed and used for years. It's probably not an issue for a small shop with a few devs, but imagine a large software house with hundreds if not thousands of devs and the amount of info that goes into Jira. Nobody wants to be that guy who proposes 6 month company wide data migration. That's the main reason it will take years to dethrone it.
- igetspam 5y ago
  I haven't tried it with a full team but clubhouse is nice. I've used it for personal things and it mostly works as I'd expect it to.

cies 5y ago

Jira, hands down. So slow! It's at a point we're looking for alternatives.

boboche 5y ago
+10 amen to that. In 13 years it went from something I pushed and installed at every client I helped with business processes, help desk, Dev… to an overbloated frustrating mess to operate and manage. Just changing a dropdown field’s content now is hidden in sublayers that requires a bookmark if you are not toying with that on a daily basis. (not everybody is an actual full time Jira admin, and a Jira admin should’nt have the mental load of an Exchange admin for such an application). Happy to hear about alternatives experiences as well.
- cosmodisk 5y ago
  "not everybody is an actual full time Jira admin, and a Jira admin should’nt have the mental load of an Exchange admin for such an application". Couldn't agree more. I've got admin rights to quite a few systems, including Exchange, which is a pretty big ship,so to speak. However, having tried Jira it's hands down the most convoluted piece of software I've ever seen. It took me less time to spin up an instance on AWS+ configure its access to the internet than it took to make a few changes on Jira. God knows how they managed to do It.

jkingsbery 5y ago

Every team I was a part of between 2007 and 2014 used Jira, and I pretty much haven't used it since. It was notoriously slow back then.

hughrr 5y ago

JIRA is awful. I notice they dropped the slogan “because you’ve got issues”. Perhaps because it was too close to home

dkarl 5y ago

Jira has been slow and buggy for me for over a decade at companies of every size. When Atlassian loses half its market share overnight to some new competitor, we'll talk about how inevitable it was. Nobody has cracked that nut yet, but they will.

new_here 5y ago
Totally. A light UI with some tuned edge caching and you will be golden. There are quite a few competitors popping up, the main issue is that they all seem to be bootstrapped and don't have the funding to make a disruptive marketing splash.
- dkarl 5y ago
  I feel like the big marketing splash that will push a hot new competitor over the edge will be an acquisition by a big company. "BigCo acquires issue tracking startup X" will be the headline for a week, and they will gain a ton of credibility and momentum, and they will eat Atlassian's lunch. Eventually the big company will ruin them, and we'll end up with another slow and buggy version of Jira, but maybe we'll get a good 5-10 years of the default, ubiquitous issue tracking software being clean and snappy. I'd like to experience that before I retire.
  - cosmodisk 5y ago
    It's not hard to build something like Jira, it's not even that special. However it can be painful to uproot it once installed and used for years. It's probably not an issue for a small shop with a few devs, but imagine a large software house with hundreds if not thousands of devs and the amount of info that goes into Jira. Nobody wants to be that guy who proposes 6 month company wide data migration. That's the main reason it will take years to dethrone it.
igetspam 5y ago
I haven't tried it with a full team but clubhouse is nice. I've used it for personal things and it mostly works as I'd expect it to.