> I don't care about constantly climbing a ladder. I empathize with this but many organizations are, essentially "up or out". You are either seen as growing an

> I don't care about constantly climbing a ladder. I empathize with this but many organizations are, essentially "up or out". You are either seen as growing and rising through the ranks or as awaiting some sort of release. I hope you are so good at what you do that you could easily find another job, but that is not a given for most people. So they feel compelled to play the games you are dismissing.