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What did Trump ever say that was homophobic?

nanna 5y ago
> What did Trump ever say that was homophobic? Said? He - Refused to support the Equality Act - Appointed an unprecedented number of homophobic judges - Gutted Section 1557, removing protections for queer people under the Afordable Care Act - Blocked transgender people from openly serving in the military - Banned the flying of LGBTQ+ flags from embassies. - Weakend rights to asylum for people fleeing gender-based persecution. And more: https://www.them.us/story/donald-trump-worst-lgbtq-attacks https://www.them.us/story/donald-trump-worst-lgbtq-attacks It's not just about what he said, my friend.
- Moodles 5y ago
  Right. I agree it’s better to take actions than words. So let’s take one. > Refused to support the Equality Act Let me find an article which opposes the Equality Act and some reasons why: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-equality-act-is-a-time-bomb/amp/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-equality-act-is-a-... In it it says: > Under the guise of anti-discrimination protections, the bill redefines sex to include gender identity, undermines religious freedom, gives males who identify as females the right to women’s spaces, and sets a dangerous political precedent for the medicalization of gender-confused youth Is it plausible that someone might not support the Equality Act for these reasons, or do you sincerely believe anyone who opposes this particular legislation is phobic to homosexuals? Afraid of gay people? Thinks gays are lesser humans? We can talk about the other items on the list too if you want. I just wanted to do one as I suspect they’re all similar.
  - IgorPartola 5y ago
    Wow. The “I’m not homophobic I just don’t like trans people or gay people” argument. In case you don’t know, what that article says is complete nonsense. Please find better sources.
    - Moodles 5y ago
      Oh, ok. I don't think I said anything about "not liking gay people" but you've obviously read between the lines. Good for you.
      - IgorPartola 5y ago
        I have no idea what your stance is but the quote your provided is ignorant to the point that I wouldn’t know where to begin discussing it. Moreover, it’s ignorance comes with homophobic undertones. So in the sense that if you buy it at face value then yes you might think that the bill in question is bad. But if you learn even the basics on the subject, then you will realize that this quote and the whole article are homophobic and transphobic FUD. If your argument here is that Trump read (haha!) articles like these and then believed them at face value and it’s all the media’s fault for putting incorrect information in front of him… that’s 100% his fault and responsibility. He had access to top experts and advisors in every field, he could have figured it out. If your argument is based on the idea that there is some conspiracy to overmedicate “gender confused youths” then I don’t know what to tell you because your understanding of the subject is at the level of Borat’s (comically poor).
        Moodles 5y ago
        Oh, ok. This was a productive discussion wasn't it? :)
        IgorPartola 5y ago
        I do find it supremely frustrating to have these discussions because it seems like most times people on the other side of the argument simply question reality. It's like having an engineering discussion where you allow for 1+1 to equal 3 or more in some cases, and every time you have to add 1 and 1 you have to provide proof from a conservative website that shows that it does in fact equal 2 or else the other person just cries "fake news" and "what about..." or "mainstream media". It's almost like a targeted misinformation and propaganda campaign convinced half the US that facts aren't facts and that you can question anything for which there is a lot of evidence because, well, isn't it suspicious that there is so much evidence for it? "The truth is out there, you just have to find it" is my favorite: yes the FBI/NSA/CIA are clueless but anyone with a Facebook account can figure out some kind of grand conspiracy that's afoot...

> What did Trump ever say that was homophobic? Said? He - Refused to support the Equality Act - Appointed an unprecedented number of homophobic judges - Gutted Section 1557, removing protections for queer people under the Afordable Care Act - Blocked transgender people from openly serving in the military - Banned the flying of LGBTQ+ flags from embassies. - Weakend rights to asylum for people fleeing gender-based persecution. And more: https://www.them.us/story/donald-trump-worst-lgbtq-attacks https://www.them.us/story/donald-trump-worst-lgbtq-attacks It's not just about what he said, my friend.

Moodles 5y ago
Right. I agree it’s better to take actions than words. So let’s take one. > Refused to support the Equality Act Let me find an article which opposes the Equality Act and some reasons why: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-equality-act-is-a-time-bomb/amp/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-equality-act-is-a-... In it it says: > Under the guise of anti-discrimination protections, the bill redefines sex to include gender identity, undermines religious freedom, gives males who identify as females the right to women’s spaces, and sets a dangerous political precedent for the medicalization of gender-confused youth Is it plausible that someone might not support the Equality Act for these reasons, or do you sincerely believe anyone who opposes this particular legislation is phobic to homosexuals? Afraid of gay people? Thinks gays are lesser humans? We can talk about the other items on the list too if you want. I just wanted to do one as I suspect they’re all similar.
- IgorPartola 5y ago
  Wow. The “I’m not homophobic I just don’t like trans people or gay people” argument. In case you don’t know, what that article says is complete nonsense. Please find better sources.
  - Moodles 5y ago
    Oh, ok. I don't think I said anything about "not liking gay people" but you've obviously read between the lines. Good for you.
    - IgorPartola 5y ago
      I have no idea what your stance is but the quote your provided is ignorant to the point that I wouldn’t know where to begin discussing it. Moreover, it’s ignorance comes with homophobic undertones. So in the sense that if you buy it at face value then yes you might think that the bill in question is bad. But if you learn even the basics on the subject, then you will realize that this quote and the whole article are homophobic and transphobic FUD. If your argument here is that Trump read (haha!) articles like these and then believed them at face value and it’s all the media’s fault for putting incorrect information in front of him… that’s 100% his fault and responsibility. He had access to top experts and advisors in every field, he could have figured it out. If your argument is based on the idea that there is some conspiracy to overmedicate “gender confused youths” then I don’t know what to tell you because your understanding of the subject is at the level of Borat’s (comically poor).
      - Moodles 5y ago
        Oh, ok. This was a productive discussion wasn't it? :)
        IgorPartola 5y ago
        I do find it supremely frustrating to have these discussions because it seems like most times people on the other side of the argument simply question reality. It's like having an engineering discussion where you allow for 1+1 to equal 3 or more in some cases, and every time you have to add 1 and 1 you have to provide proof from a conservative website that shows that it does in fact equal 2 or else the other person just cries "fake news" and "what about..." or "mainstream media". It's almost like a targeted misinformation and propaganda campaign convinced half the US that facts aren't facts and that you can question anything for which there is a lot of evidence because, well, isn't it suspicious that there is so much evidence for it? "The truth is out there, you just have to find it" is my favorite: yes the FBI/NSA/CIA are clueless but anyone with a Facebook account can figure out some kind of grand conspiracy that's afoot...