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Oh yeah, I forgot about how that fixed the malware problems on the platform.
by swiley 5y ago
Oh yeah, I forgot about how that fixed the malware problems on the platform.
- pjmlp 5y agoIndeeed, it is wonderful when people install outside Play Store and keep giving permissions for everything on flashlight apps.
- swiley 5y agoIt doesn't matter where the users are getting the software when the threat model implicitly trusts the OS vendor and makes it difficult for users to install the OS themselves. Android phones ship with malware installed as root often with no methods for removing it.
- pjmlp 5y agoI don't consider OEM bundles malware, a practice that goes all the way back the early days of home computing. https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-pack https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-... http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html
- swiley 5y agoCongrats on reverting home computing back to the amiga days then. I have walked into target, bought androids, pulled them out of the box and connected them to the network over which they would immediately proceed to download gigabytes of malware from the play store.
- pjmlp 5y agoThat is not malware. > computer software that is designed to damage the way a computer works https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malware https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malware As home computing being reverted back to the Amiga days, I really look forward to it. PC, macOS, iOS, Android are devices with a soul, where hardware and software is designed in alongside each other. Whereas GNU/Linux folks keep trying to put a PDP-11 sh into a mobile phone.
- swiley 5y agoMeh, at this point I'll take a pdp-11 sh on my phone (I use ash actually.) At least it does what I tell it to do unlike most of Android.
- trasz 5y agoSo malware magically ceases to be malware as soon as it’s preinstalled by the vendor?
- pjmlp 5y agoIt wasn't malware to start it. > computer software that is designed to damage the way a computer works https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malware https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malware
- swiley 5y ago"damage the way the computer works" IMO that includes abusing or denying resources or services on the machine which is very common with preloaded stuff. Also your definition doesn't capture spyware.
- dTal 5y agoLet's not pretend that the Play Store is malware-free. Or that the Android permissions model is flawless.
- pjmlp 5y agoIt is definitely better than default GNU/Linux installations.
- swiley 5y agoIt's definitely not. I'm certain I can install and use tools like git on a fresh GNU/Linux install. I can't say the same about Android.
- pjmlp 5y agoThat is completly unrelated to security. But just to tease your goal post move action, 99.9% of people using Android don't care about using git on their phones, and even if they would. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aor.pocketgit&hl=en&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aor.pocket...
- swiley 5y agoIf you only bother with what software people care about why allow installing code outside of the browser? That would much more effectively eliminate security vulnerabilities.