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Huawei has "OS Kernel Lab" in their research division [1] and seems to do real research, including building an OS kernel. I guess they at least tried to ditch A

Huawei has "OS Kernel Lab" in their research division [1] and seems to do real research, including building an OS kernel. I guess they at least tried to ditch Android at a point. I'm not supporting their PR strategy. Just interesting to see where a corporate research goes. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=huawei+OS+Kernel+Lab https://www.google.com/search?q=huawei+OS+Kernel+Lab

swiley 5y ago
The Linux kernel is the singular decent component of Android.
- teddyh 5y ago
  Was. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27280567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27280567
  - topkeks 5y ago
    Is
  - als0 5y ago
    Technically, “was” is wrong because the new Nest Hub doesn’t run any part of Android. These are Flutter apps targeted specifically for Fuschia. There’s no evidence yet that they will run Android on top of Fuschia.
    - Raqbit 5y ago
      They are actually working on porting the Android Runtime (ART) to Fuchsia. [1] [1] https://android.googlesource.com/device/google/fuchsia/ https://android.googlesource.com/device/google/fuchsia/
      - als0 5y ago
        Thanks for the link.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  On the contrary, the way Android forces security best practices, by allowing native code only to be used for implementing native methods, enabling all security mechanisms by default, use containerized applications and moving away from ossified POSIX APIs (except for what ISO C and ISO C++ require) are Android's best features.
  - swiley 5y ago
    Oh yeah, I forgot about how that fixed the malware problems on the platform.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Indeeed, it is wonderful when people install outside Play Store and keep giving permissions for everything on flashlight apps.
      - swiley 5y ago
        It doesn't matter where the users are getting the software when the threat model implicitly trusts the OS vendor and makes it difficult for users to install the OS themselves. Android phones ship with malware installed as root often with no methods for removing it.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        I don't consider OEM bundles malware, a practice that goes all the way back the early days of home computing. https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-pack https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-... http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html
        swiley 5y ago
        Congrats on reverting home computing back to the amiga days then. I have walked into target, bought androids, pulled them out of the box and connected them to the network over which they would immediately proceed to download gigabytes of malware from the play store.
- kaba0 5y ago
  Nah, it’s the greatest security vulnerability of the platform.

swiley 5y ago

The Linux kernel is the singular decent component of Android.

teddyh 5y ago
Was. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27280567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27280567
- topkeks 5y ago
  Is
- als0 5y ago
  Technically, “was” is wrong because the new Nest Hub doesn’t run any part of Android. These are Flutter apps targeted specifically for Fuschia. There’s no evidence yet that they will run Android on top of Fuschia.
  - Raqbit 5y ago
    They are actually working on porting the Android Runtime (ART) to Fuchsia. [1] [1] https://android.googlesource.com/device/google/fuchsia/ https://android.googlesource.com/device/google/fuchsia/
    - als0 5y ago
      Thanks for the link.
pjmlp 5y ago
On the contrary, the way Android forces security best practices, by allowing native code only to be used for implementing native methods, enabling all security mechanisms by default, use containerized applications and moving away from ossified POSIX APIs (except for what ISO C and ISO C++ require) are Android's best features.
- swiley 5y ago
  Oh yeah, I forgot about how that fixed the malware problems on the platform.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Indeeed, it is wonderful when people install outside Play Store and keep giving permissions for everything on flashlight apps.
    - swiley 5y ago
      It doesn't matter where the users are getting the software when the threat model implicitly trusts the OS vendor and makes it difficult for users to install the OS themselves. Android phones ship with malware installed as root often with no methods for removing it.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        I don't consider OEM bundles malware, a practice that goes all the way back the early days of home computing. https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-pack https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/games/james-bond-007-action-... http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/bundles.html
        swiley 5y ago
        Congrats on reverting home computing back to the amiga days then. I have walked into target, bought androids, pulled them out of the box and connected them to the network over which they would immediately proceed to download gigabytes of malware from the play store.
kaba0 5y ago
Nah, it’s the greatest security vulnerability of the platform.