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I will not be donating for the foreseeable future, because Gnome has repeatedly shown contempt towards their software's userbase by ignoring their feedback and

by prvc 5y ago

I will not be donating for the foreseeable future, because Gnome has repeatedly shown contempt towards their software's userbase by ignoring their feedback and releasing software that has poor quality and usability.

hexa22 5y ago
The gnome devs have built something almost exactly how I want. If the gnome devs listened to most of the feedback I see on HN, I would no longer like the DE. Consider that different users have different preferences. I have tried almost all of the DE/WMs and have found gnome to be the most stable/best looking/best defaults.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  I have the same feeling that you do. But for some reason some stuff has been broken on GNOME that did not require breaking. My three biggest pain points (both personally and for the non-tech people i provide tech support with) is alt-tab not switching between all open window in recent order usage, the disappearance of the venerable systray, and .desktop files not proposing to be executed (at least on Debian). These three points are contrary to every other desktop environment there is, and it's confusing the hell out of people. I really wish GNOME the best and i really like some aspects of it (it's pretty and it's well-integrated) but over the years they've dumped core features like this, and made the overall experience super slow. If you've tried to run GNOME on second-hand hardware with HDD (not SSD) you know what i'm talking about.
berkes 5y ago
A good reasoning. But rather negative in tone of voice. Gnome is not for you; good! Because there's lot's of choice: POPos, Mint, KDE, LXDE, iwm, and so forth and so on. This is what OSS en Linux is all about: choices! freedom! Why not use one of the alternatives that fits your requirements better and praise that alternative?
- approxim8ion 5y ago
  Clarification: At least until the next release, PopOS is still very much GNOME.
  - berkes 5y ago
    Certainly. As is Mint, IIRC. But those may solve grandparents' issue with "ignoring their feedback" or "poor quality and usability.".
    - dralley 5y ago
      No, cinnamon is a fork of gnome but it's a heavy fork that has been diverged for a decade now. It's not really gnome anymore.
- prvc 5y ago
  I think you are saying that only positive feedback is acceptable? If this is the case, I disagree. As for "just go make your own/ use your own", well, many people do. Personally I do use a different WM when I can, but still have to use GNOME from time to time.
jamespo 5y ago
What projects do you donate to?

by prvc 5y ago

hexa22 5y ago

The gnome devs have built something almost exactly how I want. If the gnome devs listened to most of the feedback I see on HN, I would no longer like the DE. Consider that different users have different preferences. I have tried almost all of the DE/WMs and have found gnome to be the most stable/best looking/best defaults.

southerntofu 5y ago
I have the same feeling that you do. But for some reason some stuff has been broken on GNOME that did not require breaking. My three biggest pain points (both personally and for the non-tech people i provide tech support with) is alt-tab not switching between all open window in recent order usage, the disappearance of the venerable systray, and .desktop files not proposing to be executed (at least on Debian). These three points are contrary to every other desktop environment there is, and it's confusing the hell out of people. I really wish GNOME the best and i really like some aspects of it (it's pretty and it's well-integrated) but over the years they've dumped core features like this, and made the overall experience super slow. If you've tried to run GNOME on second-hand hardware with HDD (not SSD) you know what i'm talking about.

berkes 5y ago

A good reasoning. But rather negative in tone of voice. Gnome is not for you; good! Because there's lot's of choice: POPos, Mint, KDE, LXDE, iwm, and so forth and so on. This is what OSS en Linux is all about: choices! freedom! Why not use one of the alternatives that fits your requirements better and praise that alternative?

approxim8ion 5y ago
Clarification: At least until the next release, PopOS is still very much GNOME.
- berkes 5y ago
  Certainly. As is Mint, IIRC. But those may solve grandparents' issue with "ignoring their feedback" or "poor quality and usability.".
  - dralley 5y ago
    No, cinnamon is a fork of gnome but it's a heavy fork that has been diverged for a decade now. It's not really gnome anymore.
prvc 5y ago
I think you are saying that only positive feedback is acceptable? If this is the case, I disagree. As for "just go make your own/ use your own", well, many people do. Personally I do use a different WM when I can, but still have to use GNOME from time to time.

jamespo 5y ago

What projects do you donate to?