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Huawei officially replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

14 points by ladyanita22 5y ago

ecmascript 5y ago
which is also android, with extra Chinese spyware*
- kwhitefoot 5y ago
  As opposed to Google spyware?
  - marliechiller 5y ago
    yes. google doesnt exactly have the same capabilities as the chinese state now does it?
    - dogma1138 5y ago
      From a purely technical perspective it probably has more. But there is little to no actual equivalence between a company and a state actor. Companies are still beholden to the law regardless of how corrupt or powerful you think they are, a nation state is the law.
      - realusername 5y ago
        > Companies are still beholden to the law regardless of how corrupt or powerful you think they are, a nation state is the law. I don't think that applies to a company as big as Google, they can bend the laws as much as they want if necessary and do whatever they want (as they demonstrated it multiple times). The only real difference is that Google will never send the police to your door like a powerful corrupt state would.
        dogma1138 5y ago
        The difference is that the state can send the police to Google’s door. Twitter offices in India got raided by the police just recently because they marked some posts made by Modi and his party as “misinformation”. Now in this case it’s a questionably corrupt government strong arming a corporation but regardless of how much power you think Google has if the US president wanted too every Google employee could end up being locked up heck Gitmo is still technically open... Google might have a lot of soft power due to how big and wealthy they are, but in the end of the day soft power gets you only so far.
reelbucks 5y ago
The Huawei fork could be larger than the original Google main. Huawei has a huge amount of devices (~300Millions handsets?) and if other smart-phone manufactures switch to HOS. And, the only major competitive non-China smart phone maker is Samsung. what Google can do?
merricksb 5y ago
Slightly earlier submission of the same article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27377685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27377685

14 points by ladyanita22 5y ago

ecmascript 5y ago

which is also android, with extra Chinese spyware*

kwhitefoot 5y ago
As opposed to Google spyware?
- marliechiller 5y ago
  yes. google doesnt exactly have the same capabilities as the chinese state now does it?
  - dogma1138 5y ago
    From a purely technical perspective it probably has more. But there is little to no actual equivalence between a company and a state actor. Companies are still beholden to the law regardless of how corrupt or powerful you think they are, a nation state is the law.
    - realusername 5y ago
      > Companies are still beholden to the law regardless of how corrupt or powerful you think they are, a nation state is the law. I don't think that applies to a company as big as Google, they can bend the laws as much as they want if necessary and do whatever they want (as they demonstrated it multiple times). The only real difference is that Google will never send the police to your door like a powerful corrupt state would.
      - dogma1138 5y ago
        The difference is that the state can send the police to Google’s door. Twitter offices in India got raided by the police just recently because they marked some posts made by Modi and his party as “misinformation”. Now in this case it’s a questionably corrupt government strong arming a corporation but regardless of how much power you think Google has if the US president wanted too every Google employee could end up being locked up heck Gitmo is still technically open... Google might have a lot of soft power due to how big and wealthy they are, but in the end of the day soft power gets you only so far.

reelbucks 5y ago

The Huawei fork could be larger than the original Google main. Huawei has a huge amount of devices (~300Millions handsets?) and if other smart-phone manufactures switch to HOS. And, the only major competitive non-China smart phone maker is Samsung. what Google can do?

merricksb 5y ago

Slightly earlier submission of the same article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27377685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27377685