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Fine, but if any company makes me wear a mask for 8 hours, I am out of there. Work remotely or come to a normal office sure.
by cat_plus_plus 5y ago
Fine, but if any company makes me wear a mask for 8 hours, I am out of there. Work remotely or come to a normal office sure.
- hauget 5y agoMasks should be optional UNLESS you're NOT vaccinated.
- InvertedRhodium 5y agoWhy?
- ledauphin 5y agoWhy not?
- InvertedRhodium 5y agoJust seems like a somewhat arbitrary point to draw the line - I assumed there was some logical justification for it that I was missing.
- Larrikin 5y agoAre you sure you aren't being facetious and pretending like you have not heard any mention of the numerous studies that show vaccinated people do not spread the virus in any significant percentage and how herd immunity works?
- InvertedRhodium 5y agoNo, I haven't seen any of those studies and I have very little personal motivation to do so as I live in NZ and the only place I care to travel to is Australia - so no need to pretend or be facetious at all. In fact, my first actual exposure to wearing a mask was less than 3 weeks ago when I traveled to Sydney. TBH, I don't know what the big fuss is about.
- whymauri 5y agoBecause unvaccinated people can contract and spread COVID?
- hauget 5y agoExactly.
- swader999 5y agoSo can vaccinated people.
- kelnos 5y agoSure, but the probability of that happening is much, much lower, to the point of it being not worth protecting against, for the most part.
- refurb 5y agoNot really. Singapore is finding quite a few infections among the vaccinated. Sure, they don't get severe disease, but they do spread disease. https://mothership.sg/2021/06/mindsville-napiri-covid-19/ https://mothership.sg/2021/06/mindsville-napiri-covid-19/
- InvertedRhodium 5y agoHIV has a transmission rate below 2% - I'd still suggest wearing a condom though.
- ledauphin 5y agorisk/reward ratio here is way different, no?
- whymauri 5y agolol you're totally right, let's just never trust any vaccine or medical developments due to anomalous chance of failure. in accordance to this, i pledge to never leave my home until i leave this barren earth.
- jen20 5y agoBecause that is the guidance from the CDC.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoI wish all the covid vaccine protocols were applied to other diseases we have vaccines for. Measles is a million times more infectious.
- mikepurvis 5y agoEveryone where I live gets the MMR vaccine in grade school.
- cnasc 5y agoI also don’t live in Brooklyn, but some people do
- mikepurvis 5y agoFor me, it's Canada: "Routine childhood immunization: 2 doses of any measles-containing (MMR or MMRV) vaccine. The first dose of measles-containing vaccine should be administered at 12 to 15 months of age and the second dose at 18 months of age or any time thereafter, but no later than around school entry." https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-4-active-vaccines/page-12-measles-vaccine.html https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications... Many school boards require it, along with DPTP, hep-b, and others. Maybe it's a socialized medicine thing?
- lotsofpulp 5y agoNo, it’s free in the US too. There are clusters of families in communities that reject vaccines however, so there are a bunch of schools with insufficient proportions of vaccinated kids. A ripe breeding ground to create a vaccine resistant strain of measles or mumps or whatever.
- Vecr 5y agoVaccine resistant measles does not appear to be possible using standard gain-of-function methods on the vaccine strain, mumps I have no clue. People's vaccines wearing off (or not working in the first place) and them not noticing due to herd immunity would be a much bigger problem, I think.
- SquareWheel 5y agoWe ask our kids to do it when they go to school. It doesn't seem fair if we're unwilling to do the same.
- oogabooga123 5y agoCrabs in a bucket.
- desine 5y agoI would never ask my kids that and I would try to find a school that does not enforce a mask policy. Especially with children, learning non verbal communication is very important.
- smoldesu 5y agoI would argue that your children will learn non-verbal communication even better with masks on. It encourages alternative methods of conversing and challenges you to be a better listener and more attentive student. Honestly I don't know why we didn't do this in elementary school just for the hell of it!
- desine 5y agoCall me a backwards traditionalist but I prefer to keep social skill development that has worked for millennia.
- martimarkov 5y agoThat’s how websites like this one came about actually: “ backwards traditionalist”. Also the internet, ICE, industrial revolution, etc. We just kept doing what worked for millennia.
- kelnos 5y agoWhat we now call "school" has barely existed for centuries, let alone millennia. Pretty sure kids were much better socialized prior to our current state of primary education.
- version_five 5y agoIt's a religion now, and an important part of testing your adherence is going to be seeing whether you're willing to wear a mask all day at work, tell others how important it is, and cluck and shake your head at the unenlightened (anti-maskers) that disagree with you. I understand this will be perceived as a troll post, but this as absolutely the setup I am seeing.
- desine 5y agoIt’s been a religion from day 1. PCR tests being run at too high of a cycle count was a conspiracy theory until it wasn’t. Hospitals being incentivized to mark any possible patients as COVID cases for extra government money was a conspiracy theory until it wasn’t. Mandatory vaccination with a drug that hasn’t even gotten FDA approval was a theory and yet I see people call for it. People I had had great chats with about the problems in the pharma industry, problems of government overreach. I was one of the most scientifically literate people in my friend group and now I’m an outcast because I don’t always “trust the science”. And just 2 years ago we were seeing all manner of stories on HN about experiment reproducibility, the issues with the peer review system, etc. I have been completely demoralized by the past year.
- amznthrwaway 5y agoWe get it dude: you’re a far-gone extremist and you’re extremely stupid. Just fuck off out of society, you utterly useless piece of shit. You contribute nothing but whining and crying, you worthless baby.
- 0xbadcafebee 5y agoWe all have, dude. But just like it's not completely rational to inject everyone in the world with a brand new drug that's been rushed to market, it's equally irrational not to try every possible thing we can to stem a once-in-a-century global pandemic killing millions of people and trashing economies.
- midev 5y ago> I was one of the most scientifically literate people in my friend group and now I’m an outcast because I don’t always “trust the science”. Unless you're an expert in a field, you are not scientifically literate in that field. Being able to read a couple conclusions isn't scientific literacy. It's the same slapdash stuff that conspiracy theorists do. Find a couple publicized studies. Read the conclusions. Repeat as though you're an expert. Even in your comment, the majority of your points are political, because I suspect you're not actually scientifically literate.
- ergocoder 5y agoI'll help fake cough walking around. This helps you be more cautious and careful (e.g. I'm saving your life here). Companies may get complain and let people work from home. It's a win for me and for you. Apple employees: when Tim Cook is around, just fake a cough politely.
- dkjaudyeqooe 5y agoFor extra points, bite on a fake blood capsule beforehand.
- ergocoder 5y agoJust say out loud "why can't I taste anything?" No need to invest in a blood capsule. Even with vaccine, there is 1-2% to contract covid. Even you can't die, you will still be scared to give it to your kids.
- TheGigaChad 5y agoAre you braindamaged?
- dkjaudyeqooe 5y agoFrom reports, even if you catch it, the vaccine will attenuate the virus enough so that it's unlikely that you'll have a sufficient viral load to spread it to others.
- ergocoder 5y agoThe keyword is "unlikely". No matter how low the risk is, most people wouldn't gamble their kids' lives over "commute to office". Please help me cough.