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There may not be enough unsolved violent crime to justify facial recognition, but one thing there is too much of in Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, NYC is un-prosecu

There may not be enough unsolved violent crime to justify facial recognition, but one thing there is too much of in Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, NYC is un-prosecuted violent crime.

zorpner 5y ago
If we forced the cops to wear their badge numbers, we'd know who was committing the violence and they could be prosecuted for it.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  If someone is beating me, I'm not likely to be able to focus on his number and memorize it. When a thug put his gun in my face to rob me, I later could describe the gun in great detail, but not his face.
  - madhadron 5y ago
    But with all the smartphones around, someone can get the officer's badge number hopefully while they're beating you.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      Smartphones don't have the resolution to pick up a badge number.
    - edgyquant 5y ago
      I don’t think we’re discussing police brutality here, not that it isn’t terrible and more common than it should be. I live in King County and every week it seems some person assaults another for little to no reason (often with a hilarious number of priors) and walks the same night. That is the violent crime that isn’t prosecuted here that the GP was referring to.
  - bhelkey 5y ago
    I'm not sure how this conversation changed to talk about police brutality, but I think the argument is that if there is a bystander watching or recording, the police officer can later be identified. Compare to a situation in which identification is not required and the officer can't be identified even with video evidence.
- edgyquant 5y ago
  We’re not talking about the police, we’re talking about violent criminals who are arrested and then let go.
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femiagbabiaka 5y ago
Do you have any sources I can read through on this? I'm very interested to hear that this is the case.
- waiseristy 5y ago
  Not a read, but this feature from KOMO goes over the Seattle situation pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw
  - abrahamepton 5y ago
    That piece, and KOMO's larger project, are toxic right-wing propaganda. Please don't consider that a reliable source.
    - hik 5y ago
      I don't think calling it propaganda is quite right. "Muckraking" is probably more accurate.
      - abrahamepton 5y ago
        Muckraking implies at least a casual desire to stick to the facts, which is entirely absent from Sinclair-owned stations.
    - waiseristy 5y ago
      I don't even want to begin to engage upon what you purport KOMO to be, because I don't really care... But the people and lives that video shows are real. Do you have left-wing friendly media pieces to balance it out? This is not something that is typically portrayed positively in media in Seattle, so it's not easy to find good news
      - waiseristy 5y ago
        You do you HN. Downvote the uncomfortable opinions! That'll surely help everyone

There may not be enough unsolved violent crime to justify facial recognition, but one thing there is too much of in Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, NYC is un-prosecuted violent crime.

zorpner 5y ago

If we forced the cops to wear their badge numbers, we'd know who was committing the violence and they could be prosecuted for it.

WalterBright 5y ago
If someone is beating me, I'm not likely to be able to focus on his number and memorize it. When a thug put his gun in my face to rob me, I later could describe the gun in great detail, but not his face.
- madhadron 5y ago
  But with all the smartphones around, someone can get the officer's badge number hopefully while they're beating you.
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    Smartphones don't have the resolution to pick up a badge number.
  - edgyquant 5y ago
    I don’t think we’re discussing police brutality here, not that it isn’t terrible and more common than it should be. I live in King County and every week it seems some person assaults another for little to no reason (often with a hilarious number of priors) and walks the same night. That is the violent crime that isn’t prosecuted here that the GP was referring to.
- bhelkey 5y ago
  I'm not sure how this conversation changed to talk about police brutality, but I think the argument is that if there is a bystander watching or recording, the police officer can later be identified. Compare to a situation in which identification is not required and the officer can't be identified even with video evidence.
edgyquant 5y ago
We’re not talking about the police, we’re talking about violent criminals who are arrested and then let go.

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femiagbabiaka 5y ago

Do you have any sources I can read through on this? I'm very interested to hear that this is the case.

waiseristy 5y ago
Not a read, but this feature from KOMO goes over the Seattle situation pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw
- abrahamepton 5y ago
  That piece, and KOMO's larger project, are toxic right-wing propaganda. Please don't consider that a reliable source.
  - hik 5y ago
    I don't think calling it propaganda is quite right. "Muckraking" is probably more accurate.
    - abrahamepton 5y ago
      Muckraking implies at least a casual desire to stick to the facts, which is entirely absent from Sinclair-owned stations.
  - waiseristy 5y ago
    I don't even want to begin to engage upon what you purport KOMO to be, because I don't really care... But the people and lives that video shows are real. Do you have left-wing friendly media pieces to balance it out? This is not something that is typically portrayed positively in media in Seattle, so it's not easy to find good news
    - waiseristy 5y ago
      You do you HN. Downvote the uncomfortable opinions! That'll surely help everyone