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The threshold is very low. https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges You need 15 points to up vote which means you n

The threshold is very low. https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges You need 15 points to up vote which means you need to have received 2 up-votes yourself on either a question or answer or have edited 7 questions/answers and had those approved. It's quite easy to hit those numbers. Once you have 1000 points (I think) on any site and you join a new site you get 100 points by default which means you always have those base privileges wherever you are.

narag 5y ago
The threshold is very low. Well, not low enough for me. After a few attempts to answer some questions early on, I gave up. Read only for me. I don't even remember what the problem was. Why making contributing difficult and consuming easy? I guess it worked for them. Counterintuitive, but nice jackpot.
- bhandziuk 5y ago
  As far as I can remember it's always been this way: very low barrier to entry. All you have to do is make an account to ask and answer questions. I don't know why you had a hard time posting. Maybe you're thinking of commenting? The counter is ExpertsExchange: very difficult to do both.
  - narag 5y ago
    No idea, but I was just trying to answer some questions. I remember vaguely that I needed some points to help and I needed to help to get the points, so... I shrugged and let it be.
    - wizzwizz4 5y ago
      If a question is very popular, a lot of people think it's like a normal forum and post “me too” answers. (Or, at least, they used to, before everyone knew Stack Overflow.) So there's a mechanism to “protect” questions so you need at least 10 rep (on that site – the “you contributed lots on another site so probably aren't a spammer” bonus doesn't count) before you can answer. Very few questions are protected.
  - MrFantastic 5y ago
    The first post on SO for most accounts tend to be from Newbs. The people see the question and think Read The Fucking Manual and downvote. Then you have zero karma and you can't do anything else. The problem is that the Newb doesn't even know where to start in the manual.
- joe463369 5y ago
  As helpful as you no doubt would be, until you interact with SO in some way you're indistinguishable from a misleading moron.
  - narag 5y ago
    That wasn't a problem in any of the other forums I've contributed to. Go figure!
- manigandham 5y ago
  Because contributing has no value unless your contribution is actually good, and often there's a lot of crap that's negative value because it's wrong or off-topic or spam. Having a barrier greatly helps overall quality.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    So downvote the contributions, then -- but you can't do that if they can't be made in the first place! Read-only site for me too. Then again, same stupid "earn points before you can post" system here on HN too.
  - narag 5y ago
    Having a barrier helps manageability of the site, so from a business' perspective it's been good, indeed.
    - jfoster 5y ago
      Don't forget that a site being able to be managed & stay in business is also good for users.
      - narag 5y ago
        It wasn't good for the users whose questions I wasn't allowed to answer, but you have a point.
- mkoryak 5y ago
  If you want, I'll give you some points by making a bounty on some old question and giving it to you. You have to answer it though.
  - narag 5y ago
    Thank you, but this was never something that I wanted to do for my own interest. I just saw someone with an unsolved problem and found out that I'd had to go through loops to help, so I gave up. Actually it seems that owners became rich and it's now a popular site without my help, so I guess it can still survive without me :)
dorgo 5y ago
I'm someone with 15+ facebook accounts and who knows how many stackoverflow accounts. I don't really care. And if I try to comment and don't have the 15 points then I just leave.
- bhandziuk 5y ago
  Do you just forget your passwords? Why would you make so many SO accounts?
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Why would they -- SX, that is -- need so many different sites?
    - bhandziuk 5y ago
      Are you suggesting you use a different account per SX site?
      - CRConrad 5y ago
        No, I don't, but I'm suggesting that the UI could well be (or especially, earlier have been?) confusing enough for a lot of people not to realise they could use the same one on them all. Just, say, google some programming question, get directed to SO, create an ID and post your question. Some time later, google an OS -- or maths, literature, whatever -- question, get directed to a different SX site, and repeat the process before (or wholly without) realising they're parts of the same whole. Possibly do the same a few more times, and hey presto, you have umpteen SX IDs. Seems utterly plausible to me. Not you?
        johnchristopher 5y ago
        > No, I don't, but I'm suggesting that the UI could well be (or especially, earlier have been?) confusing enough for a lot of people not to realise they could use the same one on them all. There was a time when SO used their own openId server/backend. It was confusing because you had one openId stackexchange account to sign-in into something but still had to create an account on each stack and you could login from any stack but not with your email but with the openId account... for which you used your email to login... so the URL jumping around was confusing. Add one forced logging out when cookies expire or something and it was frustrating just to log in because you could be logged in into SO but not into SU for instance (despite using the same login but with a different identity). I could log in with another openId providers but the details are fuzzy.

narag 5y ago

The threshold is very low. Well, not low enough for me. After a few attempts to answer some questions early on, I gave up. Read only for me. I don't even remember what the problem was. Why making contributing difficult and consuming easy? I guess it worked for them. Counterintuitive, but nice jackpot.

bhandziuk 5y ago
As far as I can remember it's always been this way: very low barrier to entry. All you have to do is make an account to ask and answer questions. I don't know why you had a hard time posting. Maybe you're thinking of commenting? The counter is ExpertsExchange: very difficult to do both.
- narag 5y ago
  No idea, but I was just trying to answer some questions. I remember vaguely that I needed some points to help and I needed to help to get the points, so... I shrugged and let it be.
  - wizzwizz4 5y ago
    If a question is very popular, a lot of people think it's like a normal forum and post “me too” answers. (Or, at least, they used to, before everyone knew Stack Overflow.) So there's a mechanism to “protect” questions so you need at least 10 rep (on that site – the “you contributed lots on another site so probably aren't a spammer” bonus doesn't count) before you can answer. Very few questions are protected.
- MrFantastic 5y ago
  The first post on SO for most accounts tend to be from Newbs. The people see the question and think Read The Fucking Manual and downvote. Then you have zero karma and you can't do anything else. The problem is that the Newb doesn't even know where to start in the manual.
joe463369 5y ago
As helpful as you no doubt would be, until you interact with SO in some way you're indistinguishable from a misleading moron.
- narag 5y ago
  That wasn't a problem in any of the other forums I've contributed to. Go figure!
manigandham 5y ago
Because contributing has no value unless your contribution is actually good, and often there's a lot of crap that's negative value because it's wrong or off-topic or spam. Having a barrier greatly helps overall quality.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  So downvote the contributions, then -- but you can't do that if they can't be made in the first place! Read-only site for me too. Then again, same stupid "earn points before you can post" system here on HN too.
- narag 5y ago
  Having a barrier helps manageability of the site, so from a business' perspective it's been good, indeed.
  - jfoster 5y ago
    Don't forget that a site being able to be managed & stay in business is also good for users.
    - narag 5y ago
      It wasn't good for the users whose questions I wasn't allowed to answer, but you have a point.
mkoryak 5y ago
If you want, I'll give you some points by making a bounty on some old question and giving it to you. You have to answer it though.
- narag 5y ago
  Thank you, but this was never something that I wanted to do for my own interest. I just saw someone with an unsolved problem and found out that I'd had to go through loops to help, so I gave up. Actually it seems that owners became rich and it's now a popular site without my help, so I guess it can still survive without me :)

dorgo 5y ago

I'm someone with 15+ facebook accounts and who knows how many stackoverflow accounts. I don't really care. And if I try to comment and don't have the 15 points then I just leave.

bhandziuk 5y ago
Do you just forget your passwords? Why would you make so many SO accounts?
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Why would they -- SX, that is -- need so many different sites?
  - bhandziuk 5y ago
    Are you suggesting you use a different account per SX site?
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      No, I don't, but I'm suggesting that the UI could well be (or especially, earlier have been?) confusing enough for a lot of people not to realise they could use the same one on them all. Just, say, google some programming question, get directed to SO, create an ID and post your question. Some time later, google an OS -- or maths, literature, whatever -- question, get directed to a different SX site, and repeat the process before (or wholly without) realising they're parts of the same whole. Possibly do the same a few more times, and hey presto, you have umpteen SX IDs. Seems utterly plausible to me. Not you?
      - johnchristopher 5y ago
        > No, I don't, but I'm suggesting that the UI could well be (or especially, earlier have been?) confusing enough for a lot of people not to realise they could use the same one on them all. There was a time when SO used their own openId server/backend. It was confusing because you had one openId stackexchange account to sign-in into something but still had to create an account on each stack and you could login from any stack but not with your email but with the openId account... for which you used your email to login... so the URL jumping around was confusing. Add one forced logging out when cookies expire or something and it was frustrating just to log in because you could be logged in into SO but not into SU for instance (despite using the same login but with a different identity). I could log in with another openId providers but the details are fuzzy.