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I'm gonna guess you've never been arrested, much less seen the inside of a jail cell. So it's not "just you," but you are expressing an existing stereotype of c

I'm gonna guess you've never been arrested, much less seen the inside of a jail cell. So it's not "just you," but you are expressing an existing stereotype of civic ignorance. Pot being illegal causes uncountable amounts of suffering and disadvantage, and it's not going to be federally legalized (descheduled) until enough states pass their own legalization.

giantg2 5y ago
There are much bigger issues in the justice system than simply decriminalizing marijuana. Its civically ignorant to think this is the most important topic.
- notyourwork 5y ago
  Who claimed this is the most important or only topic that needs evolution, reform and/or change? Stop downplaying one problem because its not your problem.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Stop playing up one problem over the others just because you believe it's more important. See what I did there. People have differences of opinions. You don't need to attack everyone.
    - notyourwork 5y ago
      Try not to take disagreement as a personal attack because that's not what I did.
      - giantg2 5y ago
        Seems like an objective response to your phrasing.
- mfringel 5y ago
  What bigger issue were you thinking of? The odds will be good that whatever you come up with, there will be a "bigger" one that you're not thinking of. It's turtles all the way down. Choose your turtle carefully.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Rule of law not being followed through abuse of law enforcement and prosecutorial discretion, violations of rights and protections, conflicting laws. Hard to find a bigger issue than the very foundation of the system being ignored.
    - astrange 5y ago
      Police officers claiming your car smells like weed almost is the #1 abuse of power by law enforcement.
      - duskwuff 5y ago
        Police love it. A smell is invisible and leaves no record; it's impossible for a defendant to dispute that an officer thought they "detected the smell of marijuana".
      - giantg2 5y ago
        This isn't going to change that very much. Now they'll pull you out for field sobriety tests and blood draws just like with the smell of alcohol. The discretion I was talking about is where they can choose to charge one person and not another. This leads to implicit and explicit bias. It also undermines the integrity of the system. Why should I trust a system that can ruin my life with a charge and let a similar offense go with someone else? Equal protection and application of the law should be required.
perl4ever 5y ago
I could be biased due to jealousy of people who can use cannabis, since I can't for health reasons. However, I've always wondered about the inconsistency of saying it's harmless and non-addictive, but also talking about the devastating effects of prohibition. If it's everything people say it is, why were people driven to use it anyway despite the draconian penalties? I may be unusually risk averse, but I wouldn't risk prison for, say, consuming or selling chocolate if that was illegal.

giantg2 5y ago

There are much bigger issues in the justice system than simply decriminalizing marijuana. Its civically ignorant to think this is the most important topic.

notyourwork 5y ago
Who claimed this is the most important or only topic that needs evolution, reform and/or change? Stop downplaying one problem because its not your problem.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Stop playing up one problem over the others just because you believe it's more important. See what I did there. People have differences of opinions. You don't need to attack everyone.
  - notyourwork 5y ago
    Try not to take disagreement as a personal attack because that's not what I did.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      Seems like an objective response to your phrasing.
mfringel 5y ago
What bigger issue were you thinking of? The odds will be good that whatever you come up with, there will be a "bigger" one that you're not thinking of. It's turtles all the way down. Choose your turtle carefully.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Rule of law not being followed through abuse of law enforcement and prosecutorial discretion, violations of rights and protections, conflicting laws. Hard to find a bigger issue than the very foundation of the system being ignored.
  - astrange 5y ago
    Police officers claiming your car smells like weed almost is the #1 abuse of power by law enforcement.
    - duskwuff 5y ago
      Police love it. A smell is invisible and leaves no record; it's impossible for a defendant to dispute that an officer thought they "detected the smell of marijuana".
    - giantg2 5y ago
      This isn't going to change that very much. Now they'll pull you out for field sobriety tests and blood draws just like with the smell of alcohol. The discretion I was talking about is where they can choose to charge one person and not another. This leads to implicit and explicit bias. It also undermines the integrity of the system. Why should I trust a system that can ruin my life with a charge and let a similar offense go with someone else? Equal protection and application of the law should be required.

perl4ever 5y ago

I could be biased due to jealousy of people who can use cannabis, since I can't for health reasons. However, I've always wondered about the inconsistency of saying it's harmless and non-addictive, but also talking about the devastating effects of prohibition. If it's everything people say it is, why were people driven to use it anyway despite the draconian penalties? I may be unusually risk averse, but I wouldn't risk prison for, say, consuming or selling chocolate if that was illegal.