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This doesn't necessarily mean that it's really 80% higher, just that the reports show it's 80% higher. When a company has a really strong safety attitude it le

This doesn't necessarily mean that it's really 80% higher, just that the reports show it's 80% higher. When a company has a really strong safety attitude it leads to more reporting of minor issues which can look worse, but actually tend to make the place safer.

Retric 5y ago
In theory perhaps, but in practice Amazon simply has horrible safety practices. The push older workers to meet objectives their not fit enough to maintain which directly results in a lot of significant back and other injuries. Combined with an unsafe environment and it’s simply an injury factory.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  Back injury statistics tend to be highly unreliable, as there is no objective test as to whether back pain is real or not. Hence a back injury is the go-to malady for malingering. Yes, I've injured my back many times, I'm recovering right now from one. A significant part of my exercise program is trying to inure myself against further incidents. I'm not denying the existence of back injury and pain. I was in a car accident years ago. I was coached in how to fake a neck injury to get a big settlement by several people who came to help, including a lawyer. The term they used was "jackpot". I didn't ask for the coaching, and didn't do it.
- j_walter 5y ago
  Do you have anything to back up these claims? Easy to claim that they have "horrible safety practices" and "are an injury factory". Also, you can't really say they push order workers...they simply push all workers to be similarly productive. You can claim that's unfair, but to make a different productivity goal for older works would be discrimination and illegal. I know at my company we had a huge push for safety improvements and it came from asking people to report anything...even the slightest twinge of pain was reported and we hired a physical therapist to be onsite to treat anyone that might have early warning signs before they become a major problem.
- logicalmonster 5y ago
  > The push older workers to meet objectives their not fit enough to maintain which directly results in a lot of significant back and other injuries. 1) What you said sounds fairly likely, but is this indicated in the report? I looked for what you suggested and didn't see this data mentioned. 2) I feel bad for saying this, but at some point if old people can't keep up without extreme effort and seriously risking injury, wouldn't they be better off looking for a different job? It's tough, because I understand many people need money, but I'd think any fast paced and more physically demanding than average job wouldn't be the most suitable environment for somebody older who has started slowing down.

Retric 5y ago

In theory perhaps, but in practice Amazon simply has horrible safety practices. The push older workers to meet objectives their not fit enough to maintain which directly results in a lot of significant back and other injuries. Combined with an unsafe environment and it’s simply an injury factory.

WalterBright 5y ago
Back injury statistics tend to be highly unreliable, as there is no objective test as to whether back pain is real or not. Hence a back injury is the go-to malady for malingering. Yes, I've injured my back many times, I'm recovering right now from one. A significant part of my exercise program is trying to inure myself against further incidents. I'm not denying the existence of back injury and pain. I was in a car accident years ago. I was coached in how to fake a neck injury to get a big settlement by several people who came to help, including a lawyer. The term they used was "jackpot". I didn't ask for the coaching, and didn't do it.
j_walter 5y ago
Do you have anything to back up these claims? Easy to claim that they have "horrible safety practices" and "are an injury factory". Also, you can't really say they push order workers...they simply push all workers to be similarly productive. You can claim that's unfair, but to make a different productivity goal for older works would be discrimination and illegal. I know at my company we had a huge push for safety improvements and it came from asking people to report anything...even the slightest twinge of pain was reported and we hired a physical therapist to be onsite to treat anyone that might have early warning signs before they become a major problem.
logicalmonster 5y ago
> The push older workers to meet objectives their not fit enough to maintain which directly results in a lot of significant back and other injuries. 1) What you said sounds fairly likely, but is this indicated in the report? I looked for what you suggested and didn't see this data mentioned. 2) I feel bad for saying this, but at some point if old people can't keep up without extreme effort and seriously risking injury, wouldn't they be better off looking for a different job? It's tough, because I understand many people need money, but I'd think any fast paced and more physically demanding than average job wouldn't be the most suitable environment for somebody older who has started slowing down.