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Uh, this is exactly why unions exist. Because you sure as hell can’t trust the company to give a shit about worker safety. It’s a cost center to them.

offtop5 5y ago
I wouldn't trust a study like this unless it comes out of a university, or a government agency like OSHA. The unions just lost a major fight to try and get into Amazon's warehouses, they have every interest in disparaging Amazon.
- hezag 5y ago
  "Our findings are based on data that Amazon and other employers provided to OSHA annually from 2017 to 2020 within the General Warehouse and Storage industry (NAICS: 493110) and the last mile delivery industries (NAICS 492110 & 492210). ... All employers are legally required to submit annual injury and illness reports to OSHA for any warehouse, delivery, grocery, or wholesale trade facility with 20 or more employees annually, so these records should include every significantly-sized facility in Amazon’s US logistics network." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27371759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27371759
_red 5y ago
You can't have allow millions of "undocumented" workers stream across the border and expect to have high wages & strong worker rights... Amazon knows this, which is why they direct their newspaper to report on the issue as it does. Its just sad the young and gullible don't see it for what it is...
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  That's shoving a square peg into a round hole. Amazon's competitors have the same labor pool for their warehouses, so it can hardly explain an 80% difference in injuries.
  - _red 5y ago
    The solution is simple then: Amazon should allow Walmart employees to vote on Union issues...
    - munk-a 5y ago
      If Amazon and Walmart warehouse workers want to form a joint union there is absolutely nothing stopping them and it'd probably be a pretty good move for worker's rights. But, while Amazon is clearly anti-union, Walmart hates them vehemently.
WalterBright 5y ago
Sure, the company has selfish incentives like that. But the union has selfish incentives, too. Unions are not disinterested, unbiased parties.

offtop5 5y ago

I wouldn't trust a study like this unless it comes out of a university, or a government agency like OSHA. The unions just lost a major fight to try and get into Amazon's warehouses, they have every interest in disparaging Amazon.

hezag 5y ago
"Our findings are based on data that Amazon and other employers provided to OSHA annually from 2017 to 2020 within the General Warehouse and Storage industry (NAICS: 493110) and the last mile delivery industries (NAICS 492110 & 492210). ... All employers are legally required to submit annual injury and illness reports to OSHA for any warehouse, delivery, grocery, or wholesale trade facility with 20 or more employees annually, so these records should include every significantly-sized facility in Amazon’s US logistics network." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27371759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27371759

_red 5y ago

You can't have allow millions of "undocumented" workers stream across the border and expect to have high wages & strong worker rights... Amazon knows this, which is why they direct their newspaper to report on the issue as it does. Its just sad the young and gullible don't see it for what it is...

ceejayoz 5y ago
That's shoving a square peg into a round hole. Amazon's competitors have the same labor pool for their warehouses, so it can hardly explain an 80% difference in injuries.
- _red 5y ago
  The solution is simple then: Amazon should allow Walmart employees to vote on Union issues...
  - munk-a 5y ago
    If Amazon and Walmart warehouse workers want to form a joint union there is absolutely nothing stopping them and it'd probably be a pretty good move for worker's rights. But, while Amazon is clearly anti-union, Walmart hates them vehemently.

WalterBright 5y ago

Sure, the company has selfish incentives like that. But the union has selfish incentives, too. Unions are not disinterested, unbiased parties.