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Let's just hope there will be no "Pay to see the answer" thing happening like this one website experts exchange or whatever it was called.

thepete2 5y ago
They certainly have bought a lot of very useful "user-generated data", would be a shame if they restricted access to it now or in the future.
- robjan 5y ago
  The user generated content is under a fairly liberal license so if they restricted access someone could just create a mirror.
  - thepete2 5y ago
    in that case I've jumped to conclusions, that's great
  - jodrellblank 5y ago
    Not that they give a shit, they retroactively relicensed all submitted content and all previous data dumps, without rights to do that, and all they suffered was downvotes on their announcement. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchange-and-stack-overflow-have-moved-to-cc-by-sa-4-0 https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchan...
cheschire 5y ago
For the first couple months I couldn’t shake this feeling I was looking at a shady site. Then one day it dawned on me I had been subconsciously reading “expert sex change” the whole time. Terrible domain choice.
- amackera 5y ago
  I mean, the domain is experts-exchange.com. There's a dash there to prevent this mistake from happening.
  - ectopod 5y ago
    They changed it.
    - Natfan 5y ago
      I can assure you that they have not. The landing page for expertsexchange.com just says "Coming soon.", and if you view it with redirects turned on, you're sent to a page offering to sell it, owned by Venture.com. # curl expertsexchange.com <html><head><title>expertsexchange.com</title></head><body><h1>expertsexchange.com</h1><p>Coming soon.</p></body></html> # dig +short expertsexchange.com | head -3 | paste -sd, 96.126.123.244,45.79.19.196,45.33.2.79 # dig +short experts-exchange.com | head -3 | paste -sd, 104.22.5.165,104.22.4.165,172.67.36.241 # whois experts-exchange.com | grep Registrar Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com # whois expertsexchange.com | grep Registrar Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.uniregistrar.com Oh and apparently, if you don't have adblock then you get a whole bunch of ads[0] that I'm presuming are based on this particular crawler's browsing habits? [0]: https://archive.ph/bJKtW https://archive.ph/bJKtW
      - ectopod 5y ago
        According to DNS expertsexchange.com was registered in 2005. However, it definitely existed earlier: https://web.archive.org/web/19990429180417/http://www.expertsexchange.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19990429180417/http://www.expert... Edited to add: so the domain lapsed and then was reregistered later. If you click on any of the links in that archived page they are redirections to experts-exchange.com.
    - plorkyeran 5y ago
      The domain was experts-exchange.com from the very beginning. Archive.org even has the 1997 version of the site: https://web.archive.org/web/19970421013342/https://www.experts-exchange.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19970421013342/https://www.exper...
- wayoutthere 5y ago
  I always had the same issue with Microsoft Exchange which was frequently abbreviated as MS Exchange, which translates to msexchange if you want to use it in DNS. Anyway after years of dealing with that I went ahead and got the sex change and everything is good now. ;)
- mitchdoogle 5y ago
  This comment reminds me of those kids in middle school who would tell you to write, "pen 15" on a piece of paper and then laugh like crazy when you did because it resembles the word "penis".
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    "Type 58008 into your calculator. Now turn it upside down!"
0xdeadbeefbabe 5y ago
"Pay to be marked off topic" would be a great idea.
frogpelt 5y ago
A lot of times if you just kept scrolling past the paywall the answer was at the bottom.
booleandilemma 5y ago
Wasn’t that the one where if you just kept scrolling down far enough you’d end up seeing the answer at the bottom? lol
nostrademons 5y ago
Way back in 2008, Google had a feature called SearchWiki that let you X-out or upvote search results. It was little used, but apparently the most frequent usage was to delete ExpertsExchange results. IIRC we ended up making some changes to webspam that resulted in ExpertsExchange links falling off the front page, and then SearchWiki was unlaunched because it was no longer necessary.
- tomp 5y ago
  I’m dying to have that feature again. I just want to downvote/remove W3Cschools and upvote MDN.
  - abhijat 5y ago
    Yes, I want to remove quora from my results. I vaguely remember you could block websites forever in google a long time ago, but I may be misremembering it.
    - actuator 5y ago
      Well, this still works. `my_search_phrase -quora.com`
  - bronson 5y ago
    You'd probably also downvote all the pay-for-placement results on Google's search page now. That would lead to some difficult questions.
    - actuator 5y ago
      You mean ads? I don't think search results themselves are altered based on payments.
      - CRConrad 5y ago
        Depends. We have trained ourselves to be blind to garish pictures top and bottom, or over to the side... But when the top item in the search results column proper is distinguished from the others only by a laconic "sponsored result" label below it, is that perceived as what we usually call "an ad"? I'd say it's pretty reasonable to call that "pay for placement".
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conradfr 5y ago
That's exactly the kind of site Stack Overflow replaced, namely ExpertSexchange.

thepete2 5y ago

They certainly have bought a lot of very useful "user-generated data", would be a shame if they restricted access to it now or in the future.

robjan 5y ago
The user generated content is under a fairly liberal license so if they restricted access someone could just create a mirror.
- thepete2 5y ago
  in that case I've jumped to conclusions, that's great
- jodrellblank 5y ago
  Not that they give a shit, they retroactively relicensed all submitted content and all previous data dumps, without rights to do that, and all they suffered was downvotes on their announcement. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchange-and-stack-overflow-have-moved-to-cc-by-sa-4-0 https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchan...

cheschire 5y ago

For the first couple months I couldn’t shake this feeling I was looking at a shady site. Then one day it dawned on me I had been subconsciously reading “expert sex change” the whole time. Terrible domain choice.

amackera 5y ago
I mean, the domain is experts-exchange.com. There's a dash there to prevent this mistake from happening.
- ectopod 5y ago
  They changed it.
  - Natfan 5y ago
    I can assure you that they have not. The landing page for expertsexchange.com just says "Coming soon.", and if you view it with redirects turned on, you're sent to a page offering to sell it, owned by Venture.com. # curl expertsexchange.com <html><head><title>expertsexchange.com</title></head><body><h1>expertsexchange.com</h1><p>Coming soon.</p></body></html> # dig +short expertsexchange.com | head -3 | paste -sd, 96.126.123.244,45.79.19.196,45.33.2.79 # dig +short experts-exchange.com | head -3 | paste -sd, 104.22.5.165,104.22.4.165,172.67.36.241 # whois experts-exchange.com | grep Registrar Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com # whois expertsexchange.com | grep Registrar Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.uniregistrar.com Oh and apparently, if you don't have adblock then you get a whole bunch of ads[0] that I'm presuming are based on this particular crawler's browsing habits? [0]: https://archive.ph/bJKtW https://archive.ph/bJKtW
    - ectopod 5y ago
      According to DNS expertsexchange.com was registered in 2005. However, it definitely existed earlier: https://web.archive.org/web/19990429180417/http://www.expertsexchange.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19990429180417/http://www.expert... Edited to add: so the domain lapsed and then was reregistered later. If you click on any of the links in that archived page they are redirections to experts-exchange.com.
  - plorkyeran 5y ago
    The domain was experts-exchange.com from the very beginning. Archive.org even has the 1997 version of the site: https://web.archive.org/web/19970421013342/https://www.experts-exchange.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19970421013342/https://www.exper...
wayoutthere 5y ago
I always had the same issue with Microsoft Exchange which was frequently abbreviated as MS Exchange, which translates to msexchange if you want to use it in DNS. Anyway after years of dealing with that I went ahead and got the sex change and everything is good now. ;)
mitchdoogle 5y ago
This comment reminds me of those kids in middle school who would tell you to write, "pen 15" on a piece of paper and then laugh like crazy when you did because it resembles the word "penis".
- CRConrad 5y ago
  "Type 58008 into your calculator. Now turn it upside down!"

0xdeadbeefbabe 5y ago

"Pay to be marked off topic" would be a great idea.

frogpelt 5y ago

A lot of times if you just kept scrolling past the paywall the answer was at the bottom.

booleandilemma 5y ago

Wasn’t that the one where if you just kept scrolling down far enough you’d end up seeing the answer at the bottom? lol

nostrademons 5y ago

Way back in 2008, Google had a feature called SearchWiki that let you X-out or upvote search results. It was little used, but apparently the most frequent usage was to delete ExpertsExchange results. IIRC we ended up making some changes to webspam that resulted in ExpertsExchange links falling off the front page, and then SearchWiki was unlaunched because it was no longer necessary.

tomp 5y ago
I’m dying to have that feature again. I just want to downvote/remove W3Cschools and upvote MDN.
- abhijat 5y ago
  Yes, I want to remove quora from my results. I vaguely remember you could block websites forever in google a long time ago, but I may be misremembering it.
  - actuator 5y ago
    Well, this still works. `my_search_phrase -quora.com`
- bronson 5y ago
  You'd probably also downvote all the pay-for-placement results on Google's search page now. That would lead to some difficult questions.
  - actuator 5y ago
    You mean ads? I don't think search results themselves are altered based on payments.
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      Depends. We have trained ourselves to be blind to garish pictures top and bottom, or over to the side... But when the top item in the search results column proper is distinguished from the others only by a laconic "sponsored result" label below it, is that perceived as what we usually call "an ad"? I'd say it's pretty reasonable to call that "pay for placement".

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conradfr 5y ago

That's exactly the kind of site Stack Overflow replaced, namely ExpertSexchange.