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Release notes available at https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.3/index.html https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Le

by stryan 5y ago

Release notes available at https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.3/index.html https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/... . The big thing with this release is Leap now uses the same binaries as SUSE Enterprise, giving better support options. A good CentOS replacement for those still looking.

rubyist5eva 5y ago
I can vouch for Leap being a great CentOS replacement. I switched to Suse around when Fedora 34 came out and I have turned into a huge fan. Converted my homelab to be completely Suse based and I have zero regrets.
cesarb 5y ago
> A good CentOS replacement for those still looking. Unless your company requires you to use Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on Linux (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defender-endpoint/microsoft-defender-endpoint-linux?view=o365-worldwide https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defe...), which is supported on RHEL, CentOS, SLES, and a few others, but not openSUSE ("distributions [...] that are not explicitly listed are unsupported, even if they are derived from the officially supported distributions").
- nix23 5y ago
  Leap 15.3 is build on SLES, and if you need support from Microsoft, you have lost already...not to mention a IT-Department who installs a Antivirus on a Linux endpoint...and probably forgot about the HID.
  - reddit_clone 5y ago
    I have always wondered how Microsoft and McAfee convinced people to install their stuff on linux servers ! What do they actually do, other than actually increasing attack vectors?
    - nix23 5y ago
      >actually increasing attack vectors That's the main-point of having a Antivirus :-) But if one needs to check for (windows) virus's do it on the file-server/email-server level and not on the linux endpoint, use something like selinux and a host intrusion detection system instead, it's just a waste of money and power to use a antivirus...even on a good maintained windows.
- Arnavion 5y ago
  Yes, as a 10-year user of Tumbleweed, generally OpenSUSE is left behind when it comes to downloading binary packages from first-party sources. Even for the Microsoft software that "supports" OpenSUSE, historically that support was by expecting OpenSUSE users to use their RHEL packages which didn't always work well. [1] [2] (I don't know if the problems are still there, because I switched to the Docker image for `az` and stopped using `powershell`) [1]: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/6184 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/6184 [2]: https://github.com/Azure/azure-cli/issues/7523 https://github.com/Azure/azure-cli/issues/7523
beermonster 5y ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t 15.3 based on SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 and supported until December 2022? (I may be mis-understanding SUSE releases..). One of the things I liked about CentOS was not having to upgrade every x months/years.
- stryan 5y ago
  Major Releases are supported for at least 3 years, but are officially supported until a successor is released. Minor releases are supported for 18 months. So that is a downside, it is not quite the support level of CentOS, albeit having a dedicated minor release support schedule is nice (For RHEL at least you are expected to update to the newest minor release unless you pay extra).
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  You still have to upgrade your CentOS machines to the interim point releases to maintain support don’t you? With CentOS version X.y becomes unsupported as soon as version X.y+1 is released, that’s why it got turned into Stream, so it was always getting updates instead of having dead periods where sometimes systems would go weeks or months without support from packages released in RHEL.

by stryan 5y ago

rubyist5eva 5y ago

I can vouch for Leap being a great CentOS replacement. I switched to Suse around when Fedora 34 came out and I have turned into a huge fan. Converted my homelab to be completely Suse based and I have zero regrets.

cesarb 5y ago

> A good CentOS replacement for those still looking. Unless your company requires you to use Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on Linux (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defender-endpoint/microsoft-defender-endpoint-linux?view=o365-worldwide https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/defe...), which is supported on RHEL, CentOS, SLES, and a few others, but not openSUSE ("distributions [...] that are not explicitly listed are unsupported, even if they are derived from the officially supported distributions").

nix23 5y ago
Leap 15.3 is build on SLES, and if you need support from Microsoft, you have lost already...not to mention a IT-Department who installs a Antivirus on a Linux endpoint...and probably forgot about the HID.
- reddit_clone 5y ago
  I have always wondered how Microsoft and McAfee convinced people to install their stuff on linux servers ! What do they actually do, other than actually increasing attack vectors?
  - nix23 5y ago
    >actually increasing attack vectors That's the main-point of having a Antivirus :-) But if one needs to check for (windows) virus's do it on the file-server/email-server level and not on the linux endpoint, use something like selinux and a host intrusion detection system instead, it's just a waste of money and power to use a antivirus...even on a good maintained windows.
Arnavion 5y ago
Yes, as a 10-year user of Tumbleweed, generally OpenSUSE is left behind when it comes to downloading binary packages from first-party sources. Even for the Microsoft software that "supports" OpenSUSE, historically that support was by expecting OpenSUSE users to use their RHEL packages which didn't always work well. [1] [2] (I don't know if the problems are still there, because I switched to the Docker image for `az` and stopped using `powershell`) [1]: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/6184 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/6184 [2]: https://github.com/Azure/azure-cli/issues/7523 https://github.com/Azure/azure-cli/issues/7523

beermonster 5y ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t 15.3 based on SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP3 and supported until December 2022? (I may be mis-understanding SUSE releases..). One of the things I liked about CentOS was not having to upgrade every x months/years.

stryan 5y ago
Major Releases are supported for at least 3 years, but are officially supported until a successor is released. Minor releases are supported for 18 months. So that is a downside, it is not quite the support level of CentOS, albeit having a dedicated minor release support schedule is nice (For RHEL at least you are expected to update to the newest minor release unless you pay extra).
rubyist5eva 5y ago
You still have to upgrade your CentOS machines to the interim point releases to maintain support don’t you? With CentOS version X.y becomes unsupported as soon as version X.y+1 is released, that’s why it got turned into Stream, so it was always getting updates instead of having dead periods where sometimes systems would go weeks or months without support from packages released in RHEL.