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Why can't European countries just establish security standards and mandatory security audits that all foreign technologies have to adhere to? That way countries

Why can't European countries just establish security standards and mandatory security audits that all foreign technologies have to adhere to? That way countries can choose technology based on their merits without fear of spying from anyone, and without looking like they're discriminating. All this politicization and casting doubt (X "may" spy on you) is totally unnecessary.

systemvoltage 5y ago
Why do I get a feeling that such a policy would be poorly implemented by people who have no idea about cell phone operating systems? It would be a "security theater" with nothing to show for in terms of actual security. Furthermore, these certifications would give the public false hope of security while their data is being siphoned in exactly the same way before the regulation. GDPR: Strictly speaking as an average user who doesn't care about privacy - all they got is a cookie banner annoyance from GDPR. They see no benefit of regulation in EU. Sure, people on HN care about privacy and support this - but vast majority of people find GDPR laws a complete nuissance. Businesses implement the provisions in half-baked fashion because its expensive to be fully GDPR compliant. EU regulation is a shitshow and usually poorly thought out. Intentions are good but when it plays out, it is a disaster for users and businesses alike.
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  So what's the alternative? Ban all foreign telecom equipment, allowing only EU equipment?
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    I don't know the alternatives to be honest. Just saying that blanket regulations are simply politician's sport, marksmanship is nowhere to be found and the target ends up being something entirely different. No one in their right mind would have predicted that GDPR is going to turn out into a cookie popup extravaganza. It is difficult to predict what happens when clueless people put regulations together without precision and limits.

systemvoltage 5y ago

Why do I get a feeling that such a policy would be poorly implemented by people who have no idea about cell phone operating systems? It would be a "security theater" with nothing to show for in terms of actual security. Furthermore, these certifications would give the public false hope of security while their data is being siphoned in exactly the same way before the regulation. GDPR: Strictly speaking as an average user who doesn't care about privacy - all they got is a cookie banner annoyance from GDPR. They see no benefit of regulation in EU. Sure, people on HN care about privacy and support this - but vast majority of people find GDPR laws a complete nuissance. Businesses implement the provisions in half-baked fashion because its expensive to be fully GDPR compliant. EU regulation is a shitshow and usually poorly thought out. Intentions are good but when it plays out, it is a disaster for users and businesses alike.

FooBarWidget 5y ago
So what's the alternative? Ban all foreign telecom equipment, allowing only EU equipment?
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  I don't know the alternatives to be honest. Just saying that blanket regulations are simply politician's sport, marksmanship is nowhere to be found and the target ends up being something entirely different. No one in their right mind would have predicted that GDPR is going to turn out into a cookie popup extravaganza. It is difficult to predict what happens when clueless people put regulations together without precision and limits.