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How many resources does the university have to do so effectively? Anyway, i am confident that their teenaged student body will prove far more savvy than any mod

How many resources does the university have to do so effectively? Anyway, i am confident that their teenaged student body will prove far more savvy than any moderator. I predict circles will be run around them until they quietly retreat in defeat. That's my cynical take on this.

snarf21 5y ago
They won't, they will outsource to some company running "machine learning" and then students will start getting suspended for other people with the same name doing things deemed inappropriate.
docdeek 5y ago
My own cynical take is that this will be a lot less about trying to monitor the social media postings of students as it is a way for the university to have a way to respond when, inevitably, a student posts something that gets whipped up into a media storm. In other words, they won’t go looking for students saying the ‘wrong’ thing, they’ll wait for someone to kick up a stink and then point to the policy as their reason for excluding/suspending/punishing the student.
HideousKojima 5y ago
That's not cynical, that's overly hopefully to think the students will defeat this. The most likely scenario: and disciplinary decisions that arise from this will be arbitrary and capricious (like anything school administrations do, from university down to kindergarten), and won't have anything remotely resembling consistent enforcement.
ncallaway 5y ago
Genuine question: Where in the original policy is there any reference to active monitoring? The quoted section of the policies say that the University "may apply the Student Conduct Code" to off-campus behavior. But I don't see anything in the policy document that discusses any kind of active monitoring or active searching of social media accounts. The word "monitor", for example, doesn't appear in the linked PDF at all. It seems like they have updated their policy to clarify the language of how off-campus behavior impacts the Student Conduct Code, but I think the headline is extremely misleading, unless I've missed something from the linked policy. Can you clarify what I've missed?
- x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
  The title is mostly red-meat for the "anti-SJW" base of HN. Off-campus actions have ALWAYS been of interest to universities whenever it affected the image of the university.
rsj_hn 5y ago
On balance, sure, but there will be a few students who don't follow proper opsec and end up being severely hurt by these policies. The idea that students need to follow opsec to prevent their school from causing immense damage to them is itself an indictment of the present age.
BitwiseFool 5y ago
I'm certain the University can rely on activist students to report any problematic statements to the proper authorities. If that sounds improbable, there are already organizations in many universities called "Bias Education Response Teams".

snarf21 5y ago

They won't, they will outsource to some company running "machine learning" and then students will start getting suspended for other people with the same name doing things deemed inappropriate.

docdeek 5y ago

My own cynical take is that this will be a lot less about trying to monitor the social media postings of students as it is a way for the university to have a way to respond when, inevitably, a student posts something that gets whipped up into a media storm. In other words, they won’t go looking for students saying the ‘wrong’ thing, they’ll wait for someone to kick up a stink and then point to the policy as their reason for excluding/suspending/punishing the student.

HideousKojima 5y ago

That's not cynical, that's overly hopefully to think the students will defeat this. The most likely scenario: and disciplinary decisions that arise from this will be arbitrary and capricious (like anything school administrations do, from university down to kindergarten), and won't have anything remotely resembling consistent enforcement.

ncallaway 5y ago

Genuine question: Where in the original policy is there any reference to active monitoring? The quoted section of the policies say that the University "may apply the Student Conduct Code" to off-campus behavior. But I don't see anything in the policy document that discusses any kind of active monitoring or active searching of social media accounts. The word "monitor", for example, doesn't appear in the linked PDF at all. It seems like they have updated their policy to clarify the language of how off-campus behavior impacts the Student Conduct Code, but I think the headline is extremely misleading, unless I've missed something from the linked policy. Can you clarify what I've missed?

x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
The title is mostly red-meat for the "anti-SJW" base of HN. Off-campus actions have ALWAYS been of interest to universities whenever it affected the image of the university.

rsj_hn 5y ago

On balance, sure, but there will be a few students who don't follow proper opsec and end up being severely hurt by these policies. The idea that students need to follow opsec to prevent their school from causing immense damage to them is itself an indictment of the present age.

BitwiseFool 5y ago

I'm certain the University can rely on activist students to report any problematic statements to the proper authorities. If that sounds improbable, there are already organizations in many universities called "Bias Education Response Teams".