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No, the main incentive for living in SF for me is not driving. I work at Dolores Labs and live 5' away. Not worrying about driving makes a huge difference in li

by diego 15y ago

No, the main incentive for living in SF for me is not driving. I work at Dolores Labs and live 5' away. Not worrying about driving makes a huge difference in lifestyle. It leaves more time for fun / productivity. It also makes it much easier to go to meetups.

endlessvoid94 15y ago
Good point. Is that enough to make the city more attractive? Isn't office space cheaper in MV or PA?
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- aorshan 15y ago
  The BART (The SF subway system) is phenomenal. You can get around very easily and most places are within a convenient walk/bike ride and maybe a short taxi ride. I don't live in SF but I have visited it. Also it is a gorgeous city with lots of nice people.
- drp 15y ago
  SF actually has an abundance of reasonably priced office space. I don't know the medians, but a quick glance at http://www.rofo.com/CA/Mountain-View http://www.rofo.com/CA/Mountain-View and http://www.rofo.com/CA/San-Francisco http://www.rofo.com/CA/San-Francisco shows similar price to square foot ratios.
  - acgourley 15y ago
    The rates are comparable per sqft if you're willing to be in a seedy part of town (mission, west soma). If you want to be in the nicer parts of SF, if you can even find a good listing, it will cost way more. That said I'm super happy with workout out of the mission near the 24th street bart. And it's very affordable.
- usaar333 15y ago
  Office space is reasonably comparable. Housing is phenomenally more expensive, especially when compared to MV or Sunnyvale.
michaelchisari 15y ago
I've been living in Chicago for four years now without a car. I'm getting one soon, but only for road trips and visiting my parents. I cannot express myself emphatically enough about how wonderful it is to not have to rely on a car. I've saved so much money and headache, and it's been such a freeing experience, I don't know if I could ever go back to having even a short driving commute.
SkyMarshal 15y ago
In the past three months I've lived in Palo Alto, SF, and now Menlo Park, and have been to just about every stop on the Caltrain from SF to San Jose. SF may be easier to get along without a car, but I don't find SV particularly difficult. Some combination of Caltrain + Zipcar + Uber + taxi + bus + bike + short walks is always available.
- barclay 15y ago
  The only hitch in that is caltrain stops running at midnight. Even if you're not out partying, but just having a later dinner, you always have to keep an eye on the time, and make sure you're in the cab (muni, etc) before 11:30 to get on that last train of the night.
  - jackowayed 15y ago
    Yeah. Though actually living north (say, in SF) and being social south is even worse. The last northbound train leaves Palo Alto at 11pm (every day but Sunday, when it's 9:30).

by diego 15y ago

endlessvoid94 15y ago

Good point. Is that enough to make the city more attractive? Isn't office space cheaper in MV or PA?

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aorshan 15y ago
The BART (The SF subway system) is phenomenal. You can get around very easily and most places are within a convenient walk/bike ride and maybe a short taxi ride. I don't live in SF but I have visited it. Also it is a gorgeous city with lots of nice people.
drp 15y ago
SF actually has an abundance of reasonably priced office space. I don't know the medians, but a quick glance at http://www.rofo.com/CA/Mountain-View http://www.rofo.com/CA/Mountain-View and http://www.rofo.com/CA/San-Francisco http://www.rofo.com/CA/San-Francisco shows similar price to square foot ratios.
- acgourley 15y ago
  The rates are comparable per sqft if you're willing to be in a seedy part of town (mission, west soma). If you want to be in the nicer parts of SF, if you can even find a good listing, it will cost way more. That said I'm super happy with workout out of the mission near the 24th street bart. And it's very affordable.
usaar333 15y ago
Office space is reasonably comparable. Housing is phenomenally more expensive, especially when compared to MV or Sunnyvale.

michaelchisari 15y ago

I've been living in Chicago for four years now without a car. I'm getting one soon, but only for road trips and visiting my parents. I cannot express myself emphatically enough about how wonderful it is to not have to rely on a car. I've saved so much money and headache, and it's been such a freeing experience, I don't know if I could ever go back to having even a short driving commute.

SkyMarshal 15y ago

In the past three months I've lived in Palo Alto, SF, and now Menlo Park, and have been to just about every stop on the Caltrain from SF to San Jose. SF may be easier to get along without a car, but I don't find SV particularly difficult. Some combination of Caltrain + Zipcar + Uber + taxi + bus + bike + short walks is always available.

barclay 15y ago
The only hitch in that is caltrain stops running at midnight. Even if you're not out partying, but just having a later dinner, you always have to keep an eye on the time, and make sure you're in the cab (muni, etc) before 11:30 to get on that last train of the night.
- jackowayed 15y ago
  Yeah. Though actually living north (say, in SF) and being social south is even worse. The last northbound train leaves Palo Alto at 11pm (every day but Sunday, when it's 9:30).