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Despite all of the 14nm++++++ ridiculousness, 2020 was Intel's best year ever[1]. I think Intel has a huge challenge ahead but one thing that's helped them is

by trimbo 5y ago

Despite all of the 14nm++++++ ridiculousness, 2020 was Intel's best year ever[1]. I think Intel has a huge challenge ahead but one thing that's helped them is that Skylake was competitive enough to get them through the process node mistakes (at least to this point). Maybe what we've learned is that fewer chip buyers care about performance and power tradeoffs than imagined (or at least, than I thought). [1] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/263559/intels-net-revenue-since-1999 https://www.statista.com/statistics/263559/intels-net-revenu...

rasz 5y ago
My comment every time someone mentions Intel best year yet: Commodore reported 7-year record revenue with good profit 4 years before going bankrupt. https://dfarq.homeip.net/commodore-financial-history-1978-1994/ https://dfarq.homeip.net/commodore-financial-history-1978-19...
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  the historic revenue charts for the two companies are completely different though
- trimbo 5y ago
  As did Blackberry! And countless other "innovators dilemma" examples. Intel's a little different though. It's not like consumer sentiment has changed like in the case of the C64->PC or BB->iPhone. AMD and ARM are strong competitors but Intel is in this position because they made a major technical misstep. Maybe more like Microsoft and the Longhorn/Vista debacle. I don't think we can conclusively say Intel or even x86 can't be competitive when they get their process figured out.
  - rasz 5y ago
    Commodore didnt go out of business because of C64, if anything C64 kept them afloat far longer than they should of lasted. They actually still sold ~150K C64 in 1994! Commodore went bankrupt because they kept selling 1981 released c64 and 1985 released Amigas all the way to 1994 with almost no upgrades. They did plenty of updates, like new C64 cases, or Amiga 600. A600 had same cpu, same mhz, same Dual Density floppy as 1985 A1000. Intel has been selling same 4 core CPUs for almost 10 years now, only last year finally releasing something able to compete with Ryzens on $/core count.

by trimbo 5y ago

rasz 5y ago

My comment every time someone mentions Intel best year yet: Commodore reported 7-year record revenue with good profit 4 years before going bankrupt. https://dfarq.homeip.net/commodore-financial-history-1978-1994/ https://dfarq.homeip.net/commodore-financial-history-1978-19...

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
the historic revenue charts for the two companies are completely different though
trimbo 5y ago
As did Blackberry! And countless other "innovators dilemma" examples. Intel's a little different though. It's not like consumer sentiment has changed like in the case of the C64->PC or BB->iPhone. AMD and ARM are strong competitors but Intel is in this position because they made a major technical misstep. Maybe more like Microsoft and the Longhorn/Vista debacle. I don't think we can conclusively say Intel or even x86 can't be competitive when they get their process figured out.
- rasz 5y ago
  Commodore didnt go out of business because of C64, if anything C64 kept them afloat far longer than they should of lasted. They actually still sold ~150K C64 in 1994! Commodore went bankrupt because they kept selling 1981 released c64 and 1985 released Amigas all the way to 1994 with almost no upgrades. They did plenty of updates, like new C64 cases, or Amiga 600. A600 had same cpu, same mhz, same Dual Density floppy as 1985 A1000. Intel has been selling same 4 core CPUs for almost 10 years now, only last year finally releasing something able to compete with Ryzens on $/core count.