> So, if it's the successful attack that prompts those defenses, then it's already too late. Reality is not a single-round game. > Doing it retroactively with

> So, if it's the successful attack that prompts those defenses, then it's already too late. Reality is not a single-round game. > Doing it retroactively with mountains of technical debt is even harder. Building mountains of technical debt is precisely the behavior companies need to stop. > The reality is we need to stop thanking the criminals and support/protect our companies/agencies with a "layer" above their own security, including via deterrence at the nation-state level. You can’t accuse someone of being idealistic and then turn around and say this.