Cutress addresses thermal design of TSVs vs Intel Foveros: https://youtu.be/FqmcWOVv2eY?t=383 https://youtu.be/FqmcWOVv2eY?t=383 There's additional silicon sti

Cutress addresses thermal design of TSVs vs Intel Foveros: https://youtu.be/FqmcWOVv2eY?t=383 https://youtu.be/FqmcWOVv2eY?t=383 There's additional silicon stiffeners which should help with thermal transfer, granted at lower thermal efficiency than a single element. ----- Cooling? Well, I'm using a 5900X right now, air cooled, with a high airflow case loaded with slow spinning 140mm case fans. In games at 1440p120 (maxed settings, with RTX) I'm hotspotting at -- wait for it -- about 68C. With most of the CPU at 60C. In CPU intensive applications, more like 74C hotspot, with most of the chip at 65-67C. That's a setup that's still inaudible to me at 1m distance. I feel this is going to be a 5900XT and 5950XT. Fills a price gap between the higher end X desktop CPUs and Threadripper for the HEDT market. Great for reasonably priced dev desktops (without falling down the workstation rabbit hole), as compilers love cache. ... though next year with 64-core EPYCs at 5nm with 768MB of L3? Oh. Dear. What's in the Xeon pipeline that can attempt to compete with A CPU that dominates on PPW and will be neither cache-starved nor core-starved? I guess it'll fuel a lot of Optane 5800-series sales, as driving down IO latency to sub-10μs will matter more.