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Do you have any insight into what makes jquery.it rank so highly? I thought a pagerank of 8 was very difficult to attain. Was this done with just some SEO, or d

Do you have any insight into what makes jquery.it rank so highly? I thought a pagerank of 8 was very difficult to attain. Was this done with just some SEO, or did some mega-popular site link to them by mistake? This is the real problem here, because people do have a lot of trust that very highly-ranked results on Google won't hurt them.

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josegonzalez 15y ago
I'd imagine that if they are a perfect duplicate of jquery.com, and jquery.com is constantly returning a 500 error page to the googlebot, then all the content on jquery.it would be "unique". There is so much of it, and all highly relevant content, that it's pretty much a no-brainer that it's pagerank would be so high. That said, I find it funny that there is so much vitriol against Google in this case when, as has been noted above, it's likely a misconfiguration on jquery.com's part.
- yaakov34 15y ago
  Vitriol? Certainly not from me - I think I've been perfectly civil, and I am trying to understand the situation. I don't think your explanation holds. Pagerank is based on reputation (created by links and other means which Google isn't very specific about), more than on contents. jquery.com has a pagerank of 8, so it can't be all inaccessible to Google. The GP says that blog.jquery.com is inaccessible. So how does jquery.it get a pagerank of 8? Your explanation would look correct if jquery.com had a pagerank of 1 (due to misconfiguration) and jquery.it sneaked in with a rank of 2. But this isn't the pattern.
bhartzer 15y ago
Just look at the backlinks to jquery.it and it should be pretty clear why that site ranks in Google for jquery-related searches.
- yaakov34 15y ago
  Can you share some details about what you found? I am not much of a webmaster, but naive searches with Google don't find any massive backlinkage to jquery.it. Maybe they are already cleaning the index, or maybe I didn't search it right. EDIT: 1 more datapoint: bing doesn't return anything from *.jquery.it for the search in question.
fhars 15y ago
One factor may be unique fresh content. If jquery.com only returns 500 to googlebot, jquery.it is one of the most content rich sites with fresh content on jquery 1.6.2. When I tried it some hours ago, jquery.com had first place for the query "jquery", but was only on the second page for the more specific query "jquery 1.6.2", while the jquery.it page was still on the first page for that query, but had lost some of its freshness bonus (or my search history had pushed it down, you do no longer really know what is googles ranking and what is your own confirmation bubble these days), appearing on place 7, two places below the OPs post. The other top places where more or less shady news aggregators and download sites. [edit: right now I see the download site at heise.de as the highest ranking download site on place 2 on google.de, which is about as reputable as it can get, so google does actually do something useful here, given the misconfigured jquery.com server.]
- yaakov34 15y ago
  I seems that only blog.jquery.com is misconfigured. jquery.com is OK. But it makes sense that this would be a part of the problem, since the blog has the freshest content, and the bad result does come from the blog. However, this still doesn't explain why jquery.it has such a high pagerank. And blog.jquery.it has a pagerank of only 1. I can't find any interesting-looking links to jquery.it that would explain the high rank. It's also strange that Google returns blog.jquery.it 1st for the search "jquery 1.6.2", since those strings are found at lots of highly ranked blogs (pagerank>1 for sure). We could be dealing, once again, with Google's preference for finding search terms in the domain name. But this puzzle is still not coming together for me. This is why I'd like wiser persons than me to try to get to the bottom of this.

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josegonzalez 15y ago

I'd imagine that if they are a perfect duplicate of jquery.com, and jquery.com is constantly returning a 500 error page to the googlebot, then all the content on jquery.it would be "unique". There is so much of it, and all highly relevant content, that it's pretty much a no-brainer that it's pagerank would be so high. That said, I find it funny that there is so much vitriol against Google in this case when, as has been noted above, it's likely a misconfiguration on jquery.com's part.

yaakov34 15y ago
Vitriol? Certainly not from me - I think I've been perfectly civil, and I am trying to understand the situation. I don't think your explanation holds. Pagerank is based on reputation (created by links and other means which Google isn't very specific about), more than on contents. jquery.com has a pagerank of 8, so it can't be all inaccessible to Google. The GP says that blog.jquery.com is inaccessible. So how does jquery.it get a pagerank of 8? Your explanation would look correct if jquery.com had a pagerank of 1 (due to misconfiguration) and jquery.it sneaked in with a rank of 2. But this isn't the pattern.

bhartzer 15y ago

Just look at the backlinks to jquery.it and it should be pretty clear why that site ranks in Google for jquery-related searches.

yaakov34 15y ago
Can you share some details about what you found? I am not much of a webmaster, but naive searches with Google don't find any massive backlinkage to jquery.it. Maybe they are already cleaning the index, or maybe I didn't search it right. EDIT: 1 more datapoint: bing doesn't return anything from *.jquery.it for the search in question.

fhars 15y ago

One factor may be unique fresh content. If jquery.com only returns 500 to googlebot, jquery.it is one of the most content rich sites with fresh content on jquery 1.6.2. When I tried it some hours ago, jquery.com had first place for the query "jquery", but was only on the second page for the more specific query "jquery 1.6.2", while the jquery.it page was still on the first page for that query, but had lost some of its freshness bonus (or my search history had pushed it down, you do no longer really know what is googles ranking and what is your own confirmation bubble these days), appearing on place 7, two places below the OPs post. The other top places where more or less shady news aggregators and download sites. [edit: right now I see the download site at heise.de as the highest ranking download site on place 2 on google.de, which is about as reputable as it can get, so google does actually do something useful here, given the misconfigured jquery.com server.]

yaakov34 15y ago
I seems that only blog.jquery.com is misconfigured. jquery.com is OK. But it makes sense that this would be a part of the problem, since the blog has the freshest content, and the bad result does come from the blog. However, this still doesn't explain why jquery.it has such a high pagerank. And blog.jquery.it has a pagerank of only 1. I can't find any interesting-looking links to jquery.it that would explain the high rank. It's also strange that Google returns blog.jquery.it 1st for the search "jquery 1.6.2", since those strings are found at lots of highly ranked blogs (pagerank>1 for sure). We could be dealing, once again, with Google's preference for finding search terms in the domain name. But this puzzle is still not coming together for me. This is why I'd like wiser persons than me to try to get to the bottom of this.