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On the one hand I see news stories about how jobs are having trouble finding employees. On the other I see people in danger of being evicted. Something doesn't

On the one hand I see news stories about how jobs are having trouble finding employees. On the other I see people in danger of being evicted. Something doesn't add up here. If there are jobs, why are people avoiding those jobs?

buf 5y ago
In Oklahoma unemployment is higher than some wages
- marak830 5y ago
  Why are the wages that low?!?
valine 5y ago
Probably because those jobs don't pay enough to cover the cost of living.
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kaesar14 5y ago
Those jobs suck and pay 9 bucks an hour.
brobdingnagians 5y ago
From the article: "Around 15% of adult renters are not current on their housing payments" I take this as a sign that something is very, very wrong with the economy. Anytime there are literally millions of people in a country at danger of immediate eviction at the same time, there are probably a lot more problems in the economy than just that. A moratorium on evictions is a band-aid on a gunshot wound. It simply masks the real problem until the patient collapses. There are signs of financial bubbles, large unemployment, small businesses closing, even entire industries struggling. This isn't just another boom-bust cycle, but there is something larger at play.
stevehawk 5y ago
Likely because those jobs don't pay enough to cover life's expenses, which makes them not worth taking. It does cost money to get to a job, particularly in areas where public transportation doesn't exist or isn't adequate (cost of car, insurance, maintenance, fuel, property taxes on car, etc).
- gruez 5y ago
  >Likely because those jobs don't pay enough to cover life's expenses, which makes them not worth taking. Suppose you have $2000 of fixed expenses (rent, utilities, bare minimum for food), and $6000 in savings. A job offers you $1500/month, which isn't enough to cover those expenses. Should you not take that job on that basis, even though it would allow you to extend your "runway" from 3 months to 12 months?
  - stevehawk 5y ago
    unemployment benefits likely offer that same runway
  - danaris 5y ago
    That depends on what it costs you—not just in money, but in up-front and daily effort—to take the job. If it would leave you slightly better off financially, but physically and emotionally exhausted and beaten down, that may be worth it to some people but not to others. There's more to living than just surviving.
TuringNYC 5y ago
>> If there are jobs, why are people avoiding those jobs? Because a large number of jobs are part-time, dont pay benefits, dont offer healthcare, and the cost of healthcare is greater than the entirety of wages earned -- effectively meaning the job pays negative compared to being on public benefits

buf 5y ago

In Oklahoma unemployment is higher than some wages

marak830 5y ago
Why are the wages that low?!?

valine 5y ago

Probably because those jobs don't pay enough to cover the cost of living.

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kaesar14 5y ago

Those jobs suck and pay 9 bucks an hour.

brobdingnagians 5y ago

From the article: "Around 15% of adult renters are not current on their housing payments" I take this as a sign that something is very, very wrong with the economy. Anytime there are literally millions of people in a country at danger of immediate eviction at the same time, there are probably a lot more problems in the economy than just that. A moratorium on evictions is a band-aid on a gunshot wound. It simply masks the real problem until the patient collapses. There are signs of financial bubbles, large unemployment, small businesses closing, even entire industries struggling. This isn't just another boom-bust cycle, but there is something larger at play.

stevehawk 5y ago

Likely because those jobs don't pay enough to cover life's expenses, which makes them not worth taking. It does cost money to get to a job, particularly in areas where public transportation doesn't exist or isn't adequate (cost of car, insurance, maintenance, fuel, property taxes on car, etc).

gruez 5y ago
>Likely because those jobs don't pay enough to cover life's expenses, which makes them not worth taking. Suppose you have $2000 of fixed expenses (rent, utilities, bare minimum for food), and $6000 in savings. A job offers you $1500/month, which isn't enough to cover those expenses. Should you not take that job on that basis, even though it would allow you to extend your "runway" from 3 months to 12 months?
- stevehawk 5y ago
  unemployment benefits likely offer that same runway
- danaris 5y ago
  That depends on what it costs you—not just in money, but in up-front and daily effort—to take the job. If it would leave you slightly better off financially, but physically and emotionally exhausted and beaten down, that may be worth it to some people but not to others. There's more to living than just surviving.

TuringNYC 5y ago

>> If there are jobs, why are people avoiding those jobs? Because a large number of jobs are part-time, dont pay benefits, dont offer healthcare, and the cost of healthcare is greater than the entirety of wages earned -- effectively meaning the job pays negative compared to being on public benefits