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People need to speak with their wallet otherwise nothing will change.

SadWebDeveloper 5y ago
People have spoked with their wallets, they are starting to buy Apple because "its better, more easy than windows and has resale value" but the reality is that apple does the same or even worse than microsoft, the main difference is that in Windows there are still ways to disable this functionalities in Apple they are tightly integrated on the macOS and can't even disabled without crippling your user experience.
teddyh 5y ago
Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?
- fsflover 5y ago
  In this case, at least something will change for you.
- Ecstatify 5y ago
  Off the top of my head (Nestlé boycott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott (Nike boycott) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2012/jul/06/activism-nike https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/20... (South Africa boycott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnes_Stores_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnes_Stores_strike Going into the registry is madness, especially when you're purchasing a license for the OS. Personally I'm going to get a new mac when they get the ram up to 64GB with the new processors.
  - teddyh 5y ago
    The last one of those was a strike, not a boycott. (Also, I don’t think that Irish government altered their import policy because of eleven striking workers at one store.) Concerning the other two, the Nestlé boycott does not seem to have had much, if any, impact, and it’s at least debatable if the Nike one did much, and if it did, then the impact is not due to informed individuals “speaking with their wallet”, but the wide publicity. This is why I specified “consumer-level”; a boycott which includes continuous publicity from major media is no longer consumer-level.
    - Ecstatify 5y ago
      They held a strike because they refused to handle south African goods which is essentially a boycott. Their actions led to a lot of publicity in the country and internationally at the time which put pressure on the Government to act. “We got an awful lot of knocks back. People who we thought would have supported us: the Church, the government – who were all members of the Irish Anti-Apartheid Movement at the time,” she said. The Dunnes strikers were given their greatest endorsement when the South African Bishop Desmond Tutu – at the time a vocal and renowned critic of apartheid – asked to meet them as he travelled to collect his Nobel Peace Prize in the December after the strike started. https://www.thejournal.ie/dunnes-stores-strike-8-3690382-Nov2017/ https://www.thejournal.ie/dunnes-stores-strike-8-3690382-Nov... If a boycott gets popular it's eventually going to get media coverage no?

People have spoked with their wallets, they are starting to buy Apple because "its better, more easy than windows and has resale value" but the reality is that apple does the same or even worse than microsoft, the main difference is that in Windows there are still ways to disable this functionalities in Apple they are tightly integrated on the macOS and can't even disabled without crippling your user experience.

teddyh 5y ago

Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?

fsflover 5y ago
In this case, at least something will change for you.
Ecstatify 5y ago
Off the top of my head (Nestlé boycott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott (Nike boycott) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2012/jul/06/activism-nike https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/20... (South Africa boycott) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnes_Stores_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnes_Stores_strike Going into the registry is madness, especially when you're purchasing a license for the OS. Personally I'm going to get a new mac when they get the ram up to 64GB with the new processors.
- teddyh 5y ago
  The last one of those was a strike, not a boycott. (Also, I don’t think that Irish government altered their import policy because of eleven striking workers at one store.) Concerning the other two, the Nestlé boycott does not seem to have had much, if any, impact, and it’s at least debatable if the Nike one did much, and if it did, then the impact is not due to informed individuals “speaking with their wallet”, but the wide publicity. This is why I specified “consumer-level”; a boycott which includes continuous publicity from major media is no longer consumer-level.
  - Ecstatify 5y ago
    They held a strike because they refused to handle south African goods which is essentially a boycott. Their actions led to a lot of publicity in the country and internationally at the time which put pressure on the Government to act. “We got an awful lot of knocks back. People who we thought would have supported us: the Church, the government – who were all members of the Irish Anti-Apartheid Movement at the time,” she said. The Dunnes strikers were given their greatest endorsement when the South African Bishop Desmond Tutu – at the time a vocal and renowned critic of apartheid – asked to meet them as he travelled to collect his Nobel Peace Prize in the December after the strike started. https://www.thejournal.ie/dunnes-stores-strike-8-3690382-Nov2017/ https://www.thejournal.ie/dunnes-stores-strike-8-3690382-Nov... If a boycott gets popular it's eventually going to get media coverage no?