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I've found YouTube increasingly unusable in general over the last few months. It seems to be pushing absolute rubbish at me. There's a gap in the market for a m
by bencollier49 5y ago
I've found YouTube increasingly unusable in general over the last few months. It seems to be pushing absolute rubbish at me. There's a gap in the market for a music-only video service.
- swiley 5y ago>music-only video service I'm not sure how that isn't soundcloud/spotify.
- yakubin 5y agoSoundcloud and Spotify don't have any video.
- bencollier49 5y agoThat was my reasoning.
- kube-system 5y agoSpotify has video for some titles, particularly pop.
- kjkjadksj 5y agoUsually its like a 30 second loop vs an actual music video.
- swiley 5y agoWe're rapidly approaching 30 seconds as the "standard" length for pop music.
- imhoguy 5y agotiktokization of pop music /s
- topkai22 5y agoIt's actually the spotifization of pop music- spotify pays per song not per minute, so artists are incentivized to make shorter songs.
- swiley 5y agoI'd argue it's actually just part of a very long trend.
- iggldiggl 5y agoCompared to classical music certainly, but between the 60s and the 90s the average song length did increase again: https://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6003271/why-are-songs-3-minutes-long https://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6003271/why-are-songs-3-minute...
- rhizome 5y agoAlmost certainly in large part due to "Stairway to Heaven" and "American Pie."
- iggldiggl 5y ago:-) Depending how they used the Music Brainz data could be – there are enough longer songs around on albums at least. (Though American Pie was actually published as a double-sided single, interesting) While this is admittedly rather handwawy, even outside of this I have the impression that there must have been some lengthening: It feels like basically every Rock & Roll song from the 50s/early 60s mostly is around the two minute mark and very rarely even approaches three minutes. Afterwards however, three or four minutes doesn't seem that unusual to encounter, never mind those really long songs, too.
- macintux 5y agoGiven the glut of music streaming services, it seems unlikely to me someone could make money trying to compete with all of those and YouTube simultaneously.
- bencollier49 5y agoI honestly believe that there's a market for people who want to watch a series of related music videos, and not have "A Vocal Coach Reacts to Silk Sonic!" pushed onto them.
- nonameiguess 5y agoYouTube itself has this. music.youtube.com Not sure how it is implemented. It seems to just identify and catalog all of the videos uploaded to normal YouTube where the audio track consists of a single continuous musical track. It's not official music videos.
- bencollier49 5y agoThanks for the link. I gave it a try. Even songs which do have videos appear not to have videos on that service, oddly.
- rorykoehler 5y agoAll the videos start in potato quality for me now. What is going on? Surely they can afford the bandwidth of all services?
- tosbalok2 5y agoAre you, by chance, using Brave? I've noticed that recently with Brave as well. Didn't seem to happen in Chrome even when viewing the same videos on the same machine.
- rorykoehler 5y agoFirefox. Dark pattern to get people to use Chrome?
- danaris 5y agoI've had the same experience on Safari—in addition to the issue with Find no longer working in Google Docs (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27351855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27351855). I strongly suspect that at least part of the reason for these is to discourage people from using Google's properties with browsers other than Chrome (whether it was the reason for creating them, or just noted as a benefit for refusing to fix them once they were identified).
- Engineering-MD 5y agoI suspect this is the real cause. They did it with search, makes sense they would do it with other areas as well.
- jwitthuhn 5y agoI've also been seeing this in Firefox for the past couple weeks or so. The video quality will default to "Auto-1080p" or similar but it will be visibly much worse than 1080p quality. Switching to 1080p manually seems to be the only way to get good quality.
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- notsureaboutpg 5y agoYouTube is finally at the point where it has grown into the only and largest video sharing service in the world. All that growth cost them a lot of money, and now they are pushing to turn that growth into profit. They'll slowly ratchet down the quality of videos, then add "original quality / high quality" video viewing to YouTube Premium. Pretty soon, youtube-dl won't work at all
- sct202 5y agoApple TV/Music has music videos too, but it's a different kind of lock in with them.
- retSava 5y agoThis, and increasing tendency to suggest the same kind of stuff I've already seen, aka feeding the echo chamber. Also quite a bit of stuff that I've actually _have_ seen.
- gnulinux 5y agoI use medici.tv for Western classical music.