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Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info. I think the correct title is: youtube-dl can no longer be used to byp

by theamk 5y ago

Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info. I think the correct title is: youtube-dl can no longer be used to bypass youtube's age verification checks

formerly_proven 5y ago
> Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info ... assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card to prove that you are 18+ ...
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  "assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card" I expect that at some point you'll have to prove your identity to use youtube at all, because its in Google's interest to know as much as possible about its users. Youtube will also probably turn in to a pay-to-view service at some point. They already dominate the video space, and their network effects are enormous, and a huge number of people will pay to continue to get access to that.
  - debacle 5y ago
    Google needs trust to be pay-to-view. These anti-user practices will further erode their trust, not increase it.
  - thu2111 5y ago
    It's definitely not in Google's interest to require an action as awkward and engagement-killing as ID verification. They work very hard to not take such drastic steps. Such requirements are being driven by governments who don't care at all about user convenience, only extending their control over people whilst blaming the private sector for "making" them do it.
- pitaj 5y ago
  ...only in some jurisdictions where it's required by law.
  - JI00912 5y ago
    It's not required in my country and I get the checks. This has nothing to do with legislation.
    - sbarre 5y ago
      When you say "get the checks" do you mean YouTube is asking for a copy of your ID or that it's giving you the regular age gate check?
    - pitaj 5y ago
      I can't confirm without knowing what country you live in. I understand essentially the whole EU requires this, and the US is one example where the checks aren't required.
      - JI00912 5y ago
        How would you confirm though? So far I'm seeing a lot of rumors but no one seems have produced any actual legislation that I can see anyway.
        ldjb 5y ago
        This is covered by the Audiovisual Media Services Directive 2018/1808. EU member states were supposed to transpose this into national legislation by 19 September 2020, but not all have. You can see the status for each EU member state here: https://www.obs.coe.int/en/web/observatoire/avmsd-tracking https://www.obs.coe.int/en/web/observatoire/avmsd-tracking
    - ehsankia 5y ago
      Do you get the check that you need any account, or the check that you specifically need an account with ID verification?

by theamk 5y ago

Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info. I think the correct title is: youtube-dl can no longer be used to bypass youtube's age verification checks

formerly_proven 5y ago

> Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info ... assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card to prove that you are 18+ ...

pmoriarty 5y ago
"assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card" I expect that at some point you'll have to prove your identity to use youtube at all, because its in Google's interest to know as much as possible about its users. Youtube will also probably turn in to a pay-to-view service at some point. They already dominate the video space, and their network effects are enormous, and a huge number of people will pay to continue to get access to that.
- debacle 5y ago
  Google needs trust to be pay-to-view. These anti-user practices will further erode their trust, not increase it.
- thu2111 5y ago
  It's definitely not in Google's interest to require an action as awkward and engagement-killing as ID verification. They work very hard to not take such drastic steps. Such requirements are being driven by governments who don't care at all about user convenience, only extending their control over people whilst blaming the private sector for "making" them do it.
pitaj 5y ago
...only in some jurisdictions where it's required by law.
- JI00912 5y ago
  It's not required in my country and I get the checks. This has nothing to do with legislation.
  - sbarre 5y ago
    When you say "get the checks" do you mean YouTube is asking for a copy of your ID or that it's giving you the regular age gate check?
  - pitaj 5y ago
    I can't confirm without knowing what country you live in. I understand essentially the whole EU requires this, and the US is one example where the checks aren't required.
    - JI00912 5y ago
      How would you confirm though? So far I'm seeing a lot of rumors but no one seems have produced any actual legislation that I can see anyway.
      - ldjb 5y ago
        This is covered by the Audiovisual Media Services Directive 2018/1808. EU member states were supposed to transpose this into national legislation by 19 September 2020, but not all have. You can see the status for each EU member state here: https://www.obs.coe.int/en/web/observatoire/avmsd-tracking https://www.obs.coe.int/en/web/observatoire/avmsd-tracking
  - ehsankia 5y ago
    Do you get the check that you need any account, or the check that you specifically need an account with ID verification?