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I deeply dislike going into work. - You have to look a certain way. - You have no opportunity to break up your schedule. - You have to pretend to enjoy being

I deeply dislike going into work. - You have to look a certain way. - You have no opportunity to break up your schedule. - You have to pretend to enjoy being around people. - You have to commute (much too far). - You cannot leave before a specified time. - You cannot arrive after a specified time. - You cannot open the windows. - You cannot change the room temperature. ... etc, etc, etc. The list goes on forever.

recursive 5y ago
Different work places are different. At mine, all of those are wrong, except "You cannot change the room temperature". Fortunately, it's already good at mine. Also, I guess technically I have to "look a certain way", like have clothes on. But I'm going to look that way anyway.
fernandotakai 5y ago
>- You cannot leave before a specified time. >- You cannot arrive after a specified time. this is what gets me. i already finished my stuff for the day, i want to go home to do something -- nope, can't. you have to stay until you clock in 8h. need to arrive later? sucks to be you, you have to clock 8h no matter what, so now you are staying at the office until late hours. WFH means i can just finish work and relax. if anyone needs me, they can ping me on slack, send me an email, or even call me.
evocatus 5y ago
You still have to look a certain way - even more so on camera. Speaking from experience.
- flippinburgers 5y ago
  Nobody at my current workplace uses their camera.
granshaw 5y ago
I’ve worked for a few remote places, including one which was remote-first before it was cool, and I don’t think the schedule flexibility part rings true Everyone was expected to be available 9-5ish for potential collaboration/questions purposes, and you had to inform the team if you’re gonna be afk for anything longer than 30minsish Some teams even had a norm of leaving a “signing off for the day” note and a “getting lunch” note If there are remote companies out there who truly let you be flexible with your schedule, I’d love to know about them
bradlys 5y ago
You’re on camera, so you still have to look a certain way. You only have an opportunity to break up your schedule if your employer allows it. WFH doesn’t just magically make work asynchronous. Commuting is true but varies a lot on individual. (My commutes are trivial and I found them to be too short sometimes!) You cannot log out before a certain time on WFH. You cannot log in after a certain time on WFH. Varies on office. We opened windows where I worked... We changed the room temp but usually it was comfortable enough for all of us. But sure been there. The list doesn’t really go on forever. You’re describing different types of working cultures, not working at the office vs remotely. Working from home this last year has not changed one bit of the work culture we had when we were in office for where I’ve worked. Async and all that shit is not a thing. We’ve logged more hours than ever before and had to be online for an ever expanding set of core hours that kept going from 9-5 to 9-6 to 9-7 etc etc as the year progressed.
- bumbledraven 5y ago
  You often don't have to have your camera on.
- flippinburgers 5y ago
  Nobody at my current company turns on their camera. What kind of company do you work at that you are not able to do development on your local machine? Wow. Too short a commute? What a strange flex.
  - greedo 5y ago
    Our company requires you to use a company issued computer to access the VPN. I love that. When my day is over, I log off, shut the laptop down, and get on with life. If I get a message on my phone I jump on (if needed) but otherwise work is over.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    Cool - my company doesn't really care what you wear, tbh. Look at us - different experiences. I never said you couldn't do development on a local machine. A lot of your arguments stem from a different work culture and aren't particular to WFH. You want async work? Argue for that. WFH isn't async. You want to wear whatever you want? Fine - argue for that. WFH doesn't mean you are never seen or heard. You're arguing for things that aren't part of WFH or remote work. They're entirely separate, part of a entire work culture, and I've seen both in-office and remote to prove such.

recursive 5y ago

Different work places are different. At mine, all of those are wrong, except "You cannot change the room temperature". Fortunately, it's already good at mine. Also, I guess technically I have to "look a certain way", like have clothes on. But I'm going to look that way anyway.

fernandotakai 5y ago

>- You cannot leave before a specified time. >- You cannot arrive after a specified time. this is what gets me. i already finished my stuff for the day, i want to go home to do something -- nope, can't. you have to stay until you clock in 8h. need to arrive later? sucks to be you, you have to clock 8h no matter what, so now you are staying at the office until late hours. WFH means i can just finish work and relax. if anyone needs me, they can ping me on slack, send me an email, or even call me.

evocatus 5y ago

You still have to look a certain way - even more so on camera. Speaking from experience.

flippinburgers 5y ago
Nobody at my current workplace uses their camera.

granshaw 5y ago

I’ve worked for a few remote places, including one which was remote-first before it was cool, and I don’t think the schedule flexibility part rings true Everyone was expected to be available 9-5ish for potential collaboration/questions purposes, and you had to inform the team if you’re gonna be afk for anything longer than 30minsish Some teams even had a norm of leaving a “signing off for the day” note and a “getting lunch” note If there are remote companies out there who truly let you be flexible with your schedule, I’d love to know about them

bradlys 5y ago

You’re on camera, so you still have to look a certain way. You only have an opportunity to break up your schedule if your employer allows it. WFH doesn’t just magically make work asynchronous. Commuting is true but varies a lot on individual. (My commutes are trivial and I found them to be too short sometimes!) You cannot log out before a certain time on WFH. You cannot log in after a certain time on WFH. Varies on office. We opened windows where I worked... We changed the room temp but usually it was comfortable enough for all of us. But sure been there. The list doesn’t really go on forever. You’re describing different types of working cultures, not working at the office vs remotely. Working from home this last year has not changed one bit of the work culture we had when we were in office for where I’ve worked. Async and all that shit is not a thing. We’ve logged more hours than ever before and had to be online for an ever expanding set of core hours that kept going from 9-5 to 9-6 to 9-7 etc etc as the year progressed.

bumbledraven 5y ago
You often don't have to have your camera on.
flippinburgers 5y ago
Nobody at my current company turns on their camera. What kind of company do you work at that you are not able to do development on your local machine? Wow. Too short a commute? What a strange flex.
- greedo 5y ago
  Our company requires you to use a company issued computer to access the VPN. I love that. When my day is over, I log off, shut the laptop down, and get on with life. If I get a message on my phone I jump on (if needed) but otherwise work is over.
- bradlys 5y ago
  Cool - my company doesn't really care what you wear, tbh. Look at us - different experiences. I never said you couldn't do development on a local machine. A lot of your arguments stem from a different work culture and aren't particular to WFH. You want async work? Argue for that. WFH isn't async. You want to wear whatever you want? Fine - argue for that. WFH doesn't mean you are never seen or heard. You're arguing for things that aren't part of WFH or remote work. They're entirely separate, part of a entire work culture, and I've seen both in-office and remote to prove such.