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Are you insane? EVs don't increase energy useage. It shift energy usage from pure fossil fuels to a mix of fossil fuels, renewables and nuclear energy. Renewabl
by audunw 5y ago
Are you insane? EVs don't increase energy useage. It shift energy usage from pure fossil fuels to a mix of fossil fuels, renewables and nuclear energy. Renewables are growing way faster than fossil fuels now, so by the time EVs is really starting to add demand to electricity production, most of that will be renewable.
If you add up all the electricity needed to refine, transport and pump fuel, you end up with a decent percentage of that needed to drive an EV anyway.
What's more, EVs have several other benefits to society. They're more quiet, there's less local pollution, you can save millions on reduced ventilation in tunnels, etc. These are objective benefits.
The benefits of cryptocurrency in a modern democracy is mostly subjective and speculative at the moment. So far it seems to be purely a speculative investment object, sometimes pure gambling and scams. I'm not saying I don't think cryptocurrency can be a good thing in the end, I just don't think Bitcoin is it. IMO exchanges should be banned from trading purely speculative PoW cryptocurrencies with no guaranteed reserves behind them. (Ethereum 2.0 or stable-coins are OK in my view)
> Money uses lots of electric
Traditional digital money uses several orders of magnitude less electricity. So the "replacement" is just simply worse in this regard.
Yes, I've heard some idiotic claims that traditional banking uses more resources, but this generally includes cash and things like investment banking, which is not what Bitcoin is replacing. Personally I don't use cash at all anymore anyway.
> Is electricity 100% powered by renewables yet?
Irrelevant. We can't transition to 100% renewables first, and only then start building EVs. That'll take too much time. We develop both in parallel and aim at hitting 100% renewables and 100% EVs around the same time.
> But, if it's anything similar to the IPv4 to IPv6 transition we have a few decades yet.
IPv6 didn't offer enough benefits until we started running out of IPv4 addresses. The benefits of EVs are massive to society as a whole. Yes, there are infrastructure challenges, but they're simpler. A lot of people can transition just by plugging in in their garage.
Norway went from ~0% sale of electric cars to over 50% (~75% with PHEV) in just 10 years. And that's with way more primitive infrastructure, and really crappy EVs for the first 7 of those 10 years. Even from 2016 - when our HOA prepared the garage for EVs - until now, the solutions are just so much better. Used to be you needed an individual circuit from the circuit box to each charger. Now you just have one shared channel where you can connect a charging station at any point along it. When we got our EV in 2015, 50kW fast charging was the highest. Now there's 350kW fast chargers. Even my tiny local supermarket has two 150kW fast chargers.
No, I'm in the camp that this transition will happen surprisingly fast. It already has in Norway. It'll probably be faster in many other countries since EVs and infrastructure tech is so much better now. I think the transition from feature phones to smart phones (after the iPhone was launched) is a better comparison.