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To me that sounds like wishful thinking. In my experience, even talking to friends and coworkers, hours have gone up and the expectation is that you are availab

by llampx 5y ago

To me that sounds like wishful thinking. In my experience, even talking to friends and coworkers, hours have gone up and the expectation is that you are available on IM all the time. Maybe not 24/7, but definitely more flexible than the old 9-5 expectation. On top of that, sick days are much less frequent now I daresay.

OJFord 5y ago
> On top of that, sick days are much less frequent now I daresay. But to be honest, that's fine/expected? There's a quite large range where I might not feel up to the commute/office (or not want to cough and sneeze at people - aside, I bet that's going to be more stigmatised in the near future) but up to doing what I can from the comfort of home where it doesn't matter that I'm curled up unshowered or whatever. I did that a couple of times even when I went in to the office five days a week - gives me something to do other than lying in bed feeling sorry for myself or doing something and feeling guilty that it's not work, and gives my employer a bit of output even if it is less than 100% (which isn't the alternative, 0 is).
cwilkes 5y ago
Also could be less frequent as you are exposed to less germs from people forced to go into the office when they are feeling a little under the weather. Sort of like how flu cases went down during the pandemic — with less interaction from abroad less germs are transmitted.
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andrewzah 5y ago
"the expectation is that you are available on IM all the time. Maybe not 24/7, but definitely more flexible than the old 9-5 expectation" So talk to them about those expectations. Let them know that you won't respond outside of X hours, etc.
hinkley 5y ago
I'm pretty sure my coworkers have been using this to accomplish the reverse, and I have dabbled. There are times when your most important work is being available. Maybe less than some managers seem to think, but it does happen. I can go make myself a complicated snack or step outside to do some yard maintenance for half an hour here and there and still be back to my desk in 5 minutes if someone actually needs me for something. At lunch time you can usually stretch that to 15 minutes, which opens up a lot of options for errands.

by llampx 5y ago

OJFord 5y ago

> On top of that, sick days are much less frequent now I daresay. But to be honest, that's fine/expected? There's a quite large range where I might not feel up to the commute/office (or not want to cough and sneeze at people - aside, I bet that's going to be more stigmatised in the near future) but up to doing what I can from the comfort of home where it doesn't matter that I'm curled up unshowered or whatever. I did that a couple of times even when I went in to the office five days a week - gives me something to do other than lying in bed feeling sorry for myself or doing something and feeling guilty that it's not work, and gives my employer a bit of output even if it is less than 100% (which isn't the alternative, 0 is).

cwilkes 5y ago

Also could be less frequent as you are exposed to less germs from people forced to go into the office when they are feeling a little under the weather. Sort of like how flu cases went down during the pandemic — with less interaction from abroad less germs are transmitted.

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andrewzah 5y ago

"the expectation is that you are available on IM all the time. Maybe not 24/7, but definitely more flexible than the old 9-5 expectation" So talk to them about those expectations. Let them know that you won't respond outside of X hours, etc.

hinkley 5y ago

I'm pretty sure my coworkers have been using this to accomplish the reverse, and I have dabbled. There are times when your most important work is being available. Maybe less than some managers seem to think, but it does happen. I can go make myself a complicated snack or step outside to do some yard maintenance for half an hour here and there and still be back to my desk in 5 minutes if someone actually needs me for something. At lunch time you can usually stretch that to 15 minutes, which opens up a lot of options for errands.