5 ms·
Agree with all of this, but it also requires to schedule pretty much any interaction. Also all the interactions are going through your employers systems, which
by cm2187 5y ago
Agree with all of this, but it also requires to schedule pretty much any interaction. Also all the interactions are going through your employers systems, which are all recorded. So any gossip or informal catch up, or sharing real “corporate incorrect” opinion is out of the door (if you work for any large organisation).
It was fine the first 6 months of working from home but I feel increasingly professionally isolated, not knowing what is going on, even though I spend half of my day talking to people on a headset.
- moate 5y agoI know plenty of people, myself included, who consider most of what you described as a blessing. Not having to have "how are the kids?" conversations and instead being able to play a video game or watch a TV show during some down time is worth every bit of company gossip I'm missing.
- system16 5y ago> but it also requires to schedule pretty much any interaction. That's a small price I'm willing to pay. > So any gossip or informal catch up, or sharing real “corporate incorrect” opinion is out of the door (if you work for any large organisation). Just speaking personally, any company I've worked at where gossip/whispering/staff looking over their shoulders and feel the need complain/etc. were important factors was not an environment I wanted to be a part of anyway.
- nkozyra 5y ago> but it also requires to schedule pretty much any interaction. This is another positive. > So any gossip or informal catch up, or sharing real “corporate incorrect” opinion is out of the door (if you work for any large organisation). I'm not sure what "corporate incorrect" means here, but gossip is generally a net negative in the workplace that tends to build cliques and factions that often manifest in a bigger problem. Assuredly there are other non-company channels to do those things, but the question is ... why?
- wizzwizz4 5y agoA problem for whom? Unionisation is a net positive for everyone not interested in profit; a good union ensures good working environments which improve efficiency (amount achieved per time spent), and it reduces worker exploitation (e.g. fairer compensation for labour). How do you arrange something like that behind your boss's back if you can only communicate with your colleagues via corporate-approved communication channels?
- oarsinsync 5y agoI use my personal communnications devices to communicate with colleagues when communicating in a personal context. I use my work communications devices to communicate with colleagues when communicating in a work context. I suppose some people may have employers that prohibit them from having personal communication devices in their place of residence, but that's going to be a very different high-security type environment anyway. I don't have a problem with asking a colleague to give me their personal cell number on a work communications channel. I don't think I'd want to work in a place where doing so was prohibited.
- gbear605 5y agoTechnically planning unionizing inside of the workspace has always been legally dangerous - the correct way to do it is to meet outside of work, at say a cookout or over drinks. Those methods can work too, although being remote can make them impossible. Unfortunately a fully remote company is much more union-proof, and that’s a very sad tradeoff.
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoIt's not legally dangerous. Legally, you have the right to discuss unionization with your co-workers and your employer is legally forbidden from preventing it or retaliating. It's dangerous for practical purposes, because that law is not well enforced.
- golergka 5y agoUnionization is not net positive for everyone. Why are you looking at "good union" examples instead of much more realistic "bad" ones?
- mywittyname 5y agoFacetime or Hangout with a personal account. Also, a lot of people at my work are on Discord. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the common channel for semi-private employee chats.
- gmadsen 5y agoyour company monitors every zoom call? not sure how "corporate incorrect" you are intending, but I feel pretty open to discuss things I'm dissatisfied with with my team. I suppose if push came to shove, I would be fine with that being public record.
- Hamuko 5y ago>Also all the interactions are going through your employers systems, which are all recorded. I doubt all of our Google Meets are recorded. And even if they were, who'd bother listening through all of them for wrongthink?