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Can this be verified? Coming from a Pakistani news outlet, I am not so sure.

pvg 5y ago
The source is Sputnik a Russian state outlet which itself quotes Global Times, a PRC state outlet. https://sputniknews.com/asia/202105281083022763-chinese-artificial-sun-experimental-fusion-reactor-sets-world-record-for-superheated-plasma-time/ https://sputniknews.com/asia/202105281083022763-chinese-arti... https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224755.shtml https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224755.shtml
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  Nitpick: Global Times is not a state outlet. More info on what it is, and why being subject to Chinese media law and being a state outlet are different things, and what the actual differences are: "Facts and Myths about Global Times, the most misunderstood publication in China": https://beijingchannel.substack.com/p/facts-and-myths-about-global-times https://beijingchannel.substack.com/p/facts-and-myths-about-...
  - pvg 5y ago
    I'm not seeing anything in the piece that suggests that it isn't. VOA is state media but doesn't necessarily represent the official positions of the US government.
  - dartharva 5y ago
    Irrespective of lineage, you'll realize after reading its homepage and articles that it most certainly acts as a state outlet.
    - FooBarWidget 5y ago
      Just because its homepage articles have opinions that often align with actual state outlets, doesn't mean it acts as a state outlet. Many of those perspectives are shared by regular Chinese people. If you don't believe me maybe you should visit China and talk to some people to confirm.
      - meibo 5y ago
        The Chinese people that are afraid to talk about politics if any phone is even just close to them? They probably would confirm opinions shared by state outlets, if they'd even bother with you.
        FooBarWidget 5y ago
        You are right that Chinese people don't like talking about politics, but not because they fear the government. They tend to avoid confrontation in general. And also Chinese media spends very little time bashing foreign countries, so most people have very favorable opinions about foreign countries even if there are political tensions. Research by reputed western institutions show conclusively that it is false that people are afraid of the government. This paper by Harvard shows that in 2016, 93% of the people are satisfied with the central government. It also shows that people are not afraid to complain about the government. https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7... This other Harvard paper about censorship shows that censorship's goal is not to remove criticism, but to limit collective action, regardless of whether the speech is pro or anti government. The paper shows that many people are not afraid of, and do, complain about the government, and that if their comments do not instigate collective action, then they are unlikely to be removed. https://gking.harvard.edu/publications/how-censorship-china-allows-government-criticism-silences-collective-expression https://gking.harvard.edu/publications/how-censorship-china-... This video by a Canadian expat shows, with concrete and verifiable examples, that despite censorship, people complain about issues, and that the government listens to grievances and even actively addresses them. https://youtu.be/i6jBayUuB4A https://youtu.be/i6jBayUuB4A
      - yorwba 5y ago
        What would be a state outlet then, in your opinion? The People's Daily?
        FooBarWidget 5y ago
        Yes. People's Daily is sort of a CCP newsletter. CGTN and Xinhua are also actual state outlets. Global Times is a tabloit, like Fox News.
    - Haemm0r 5y ago
      I always enjoy reading the GT newspaper about the great Chinese achievements when boarding a China mainland flight. ;-)
      - stjohnswarts 5y ago
        And the articles about what a terrible country the USA is? Just checked, only one "USA bad" article and one "McDonald's Bad" article. Everything was about superior Chinese achievement and awesome CCP party members. lol
        Haemm0r 5y ago
        No, articles are usually not aggressive towards another country; light criticism could be found here and there, but not focused on the US. The articles are e.g. about China becoming a leader in this/that economy sector. Focus topics seem to be (as far as I remember, been there in 2019 last): - Progress and positive effects of the Belt and Road initiative - Massive infrastructure projects in mainland China - railway - Fighting pollution - stories about new regulations, violations and their prosecution - Fighting corruption - stories about prosecution of corruption - Aspiring economy sectors in China - domestic airplane development - Joint ventures with technology leaders - like research centers - Cooperation with other countries - Messages of the CCP and the president himself - perfected message control
        dartharva 5y ago
        There are a LOT of "India bad" articles though.
shzeng 5y ago
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15K4y1V73y https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15K4y1V73y

pvg 5y ago

The source is Sputnik a Russian state outlet which itself quotes Global Times, a PRC state outlet. https://sputniknews.com/asia/202105281083022763-chinese-artificial-sun-experimental-fusion-reactor-sets-world-record-for-superheated-plasma-time/ https://sputniknews.com/asia/202105281083022763-chinese-arti... https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224755.shtml https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224755.shtml

FooBarWidget 5y ago
Nitpick: Global Times is not a state outlet. More info on what it is, and why being subject to Chinese media law and being a state outlet are different things, and what the actual differences are: "Facts and Myths about Global Times, the most misunderstood publication in China": https://beijingchannel.substack.com/p/facts-and-myths-about-global-times https://beijingchannel.substack.com/p/facts-and-myths-about-...
- pvg 5y ago
  I'm not seeing anything in the piece that suggests that it isn't. VOA is state media but doesn't necessarily represent the official positions of the US government.
- dartharva 5y ago
  Irrespective of lineage, you'll realize after reading its homepage and articles that it most certainly acts as a state outlet.
  - FooBarWidget 5y ago
    Just because its homepage articles have opinions that often align with actual state outlets, doesn't mean it acts as a state outlet. Many of those perspectives are shared by regular Chinese people. If you don't believe me maybe you should visit China and talk to some people to confirm.
    - meibo 5y ago
      The Chinese people that are afraid to talk about politics if any phone is even just close to them? They probably would confirm opinions shared by state outlets, if they'd even bother with you.
      - FooBarWidget 5y ago
        You are right that Chinese people don't like talking about politics, but not because they fear the government. They tend to avoid confrontation in general. And also Chinese media spends very little time bashing foreign countries, so most people have very favorable opinions about foreign countries even if there are political tensions. Research by reputed western institutions show conclusively that it is false that people are afraid of the government. This paper by Harvard shows that in 2016, 93% of the people are satisfied with the central government. It also shows that people are not afraid to complain about the government. https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7... This other Harvard paper about censorship shows that censorship's goal is not to remove criticism, but to limit collective action, regardless of whether the speech is pro or anti government. The paper shows that many people are not afraid of, and do, complain about the government, and that if their comments do not instigate collective action, then they are unlikely to be removed. https://gking.harvard.edu/publications/how-censorship-china-allows-government-criticism-silences-collective-expression https://gking.harvard.edu/publications/how-censorship-china-... This video by a Canadian expat shows, with concrete and verifiable examples, that despite censorship, people complain about issues, and that the government listens to grievances and even actively addresses them. https://youtu.be/i6jBayUuB4A https://youtu.be/i6jBayUuB4A
    - yorwba 5y ago
      What would be a state outlet then, in your opinion? The People's Daily?
      - FooBarWidget 5y ago
        Yes. People's Daily is sort of a CCP newsletter. CGTN and Xinhua are also actual state outlets. Global Times is a tabloit, like Fox News.
  - Haemm0r 5y ago
    I always enjoy reading the GT newspaper about the great Chinese achievements when boarding a China mainland flight. ;-)
    - stjohnswarts 5y ago
      And the articles about what a terrible country the USA is? Just checked, only one "USA bad" article and one "McDonald's Bad" article. Everything was about superior Chinese achievement and awesome CCP party members. lol
      - Haemm0r 5y ago
        No, articles are usually not aggressive towards another country; light criticism could be found here and there, but not focused on the US. The articles are e.g. about China becoming a leader in this/that economy sector. Focus topics seem to be (as far as I remember, been there in 2019 last): - Progress and positive effects of the Belt and Road initiative - Massive infrastructure projects in mainland China - railway - Fighting pollution - stories about new regulations, violations and their prosecution - Fighting corruption - stories about prosecution of corruption - Aspiring economy sectors in China - domestic airplane development - Joint ventures with technology leaders - like research centers - Cooperation with other countries - Messages of the CCP and the president himself - perfected message control
      - dartharva 5y ago
        There are a LOT of "India bad" articles though.

shzeng 5y ago

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15K4y1V73y https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15K4y1V73y