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The WMF has refused to state how the endowment is stuctured, so we have no proof that they cannot dip into the principle whenever they feel the need/want. User

by Qub3d 5y ago

The WMF has refused to state how the endowment is stuctured, so we have no proof that they cannot dip into the principle whenever they feel the need/want. Users have tried asking for clarification. Multiple times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...

bawolff 5y ago
I dont think your link really supports what you're saying. One user speculating on a user space page (what amounts to essentially a personal blog) is not the same as actually asking for clarification, and it definitely isn't a large group of users asking for such, as your use of plural would imply. Which isn't to say nobody has ever asked, im sure someone has at some point, just that's not supported by your link.
- Qub3d 5y ago
  I use the plural because I know there is more than one editor (Guy) who cares about this, if only because there is also myself. I know there is more than that, however, because of the discussion pages (a sampling of which is linked below) regarding this. The page itself is a starting point. If you want the meat of the community discussion, here's direct links: * The original "Signpost" op-ed, a curated meta newspaper of which the user-page is merely a constantly-updated copy of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-02-27/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2... * Requests to the WMF for clarifcation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Archives/2016#Accountability_to_the_community_.28finances.29 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_n... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Archives/2016#Frequently_Unanswered_Questions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_n... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Endowment#How_should_we_select_members_of_the_Wikimedia_Endowment_Advisory_board https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Endowment#How...? etc, etc, etc. You get the point. This is a huge rabbit hole and I didn't want to be accused of "Gish galloping" by linking all this at the top.

by Qub3d 5y ago

bawolff 5y ago

I dont think your link really supports what you're saying. One user speculating on a user space page (what amounts to essentially a personal blog) is not the same as actually asking for clarification, and it definitely isn't a large group of users asking for such, as your use of plural would imply. Which isn't to say nobody has ever asked, im sure someone has at some point, just that's not supported by your link.

Qub3d 5y ago
I use the plural because I know there is more than one editor (Guy) who cares about this, if only because there is also myself. I know there is more than that, however, because of the discussion pages (a sampling of which is linked below) regarding this. The page itself is a starting point. If you want the meat of the community discussion, here's direct links: * The original "Signpost" op-ed, a curated meta newspaper of which the user-page is merely a constantly-updated copy of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-02-27/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2... * Requests to the WMF for clarifcation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Archives/2016#Accountability_to_the_community_.28finances.29 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_n... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Archives/2016#Frequently_Unanswered_Questions https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_n... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Endowment#How_should_we_select_members_of_the_Wikimedia_Endowment_Advisory_board https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Endowment#How...? etc, etc, etc. You get the point. This is a huge rabbit hole and I didn't want to be accused of "Gish galloping" by linking all this at the top.