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Yes, it is possible to do it well (the things you mention are helpful), even though it is often done badly. One idea is to improve the design of the web browse

Yes, it is possible to do it well (the things you mention are helpful), even though it is often done badly. One idea is to improve the design of the web browser (including the engine), since the current design makes many things difficult for the end user to customize. No-JS is almost always suitable, although not quite always. When scripts are needed, you should include a <noscript> block, including the documentation, raw data, other protocols, etc as appropriate. (There are some web pages that do this, but it seems to be rare.) What thing had you been writing?

forgotmypw17 5y ago
I look at it as running an establishment... If I'm running a hotel, for example, my valet has to know how to accomodate old cars and new cars, manual and automatic, electric and combustion, and possibly motorcycles and scooters and such... If someone comes to the front desk, I have to be polite to them no matter what, whether they look dirty or clean, normal or weird, I can't tell them, your appearance is not good enough, or you don't speak the right language to be at my hotel. I think the idea of telling the user their browser isn't good enough is the same level of rudeness, it's an act of laziness and arrogance to not even try... And yes, there are so many different browsers and levels of convenience, and if you want the GUEST to have a good experience, you have to accomodate the shortcomings of their own vehicle, which they may have no choice over, or may even enjoy using and have an attachment to... The thing I've been working on is mentioned in my profile, the live site is only a few days behind my local dev. Here's a short video I just made with you in mind:) 5igA8Zz56NU
- zzo38computer 5y ago
  I don't watch a video. I did look at what is in your profile, though. It is the kinds of thing I might use NNTP instead (although having a web interface can also be helpful for the users who prefer that). (Actually, I have a NNTP server myself, and have partial work of a optional web interface too, for the users who prefer that; it displays a link to the NNTP if the scripts is not enabled so it can work even on Lynx (which supports NNTP) or just in case the user prefer to use the NNTP.) I do like that you have accesskey attributes; many web pages don't use it. I did see the git repository about it too, and I had read the documents there too. (If you have a computer with internet, and if it will serve a plain ASCII text connection even not needing HTML or Telnet commands, nor VT-100 or anything like that, nor non-ASCII characters, then it can work if you have internet, if you have a computer with a keyboard (using a telnet client, or just nc, or whatever); that is the minimal possibility. So, it is another possibility maybe; of course is not only possibility.)
- marrs 5y ago
  Is there any JS being used in that video at all or is it all HTTP requests?

forgotmypw17 5y ago

I look at it as running an establishment... If I'm running a hotel, for example, my valet has to know how to accomodate old cars and new cars, manual and automatic, electric and combustion, and possibly motorcycles and scooters and such... If someone comes to the front desk, I have to be polite to them no matter what, whether they look dirty or clean, normal or weird, I can't tell them, your appearance is not good enough, or you don't speak the right language to be at my hotel. I think the idea of telling the user their browser isn't good enough is the same level of rudeness, it's an act of laziness and arrogance to not even try... And yes, there are so many different browsers and levels of convenience, and if you want the GUEST to have a good experience, you have to accomodate the shortcomings of their own vehicle, which they may have no choice over, or may even enjoy using and have an attachment to... The thing I've been working on is mentioned in my profile, the live site is only a few days behind my local dev. Here's a short video I just made with you in mind:) 5igA8Zz56NU

zzo38computer 5y ago
I don't watch a video. I did look at what is in your profile, though. It is the kinds of thing I might use NNTP instead (although having a web interface can also be helpful for the users who prefer that). (Actually, I have a NNTP server myself, and have partial work of a optional web interface too, for the users who prefer that; it displays a link to the NNTP if the scripts is not enabled so it can work even on Lynx (which supports NNTP) or just in case the user prefer to use the NNTP.) I do like that you have accesskey attributes; many web pages don't use it. I did see the git repository about it too, and I had read the documents there too. (If you have a computer with internet, and if it will serve a plain ASCII text connection even not needing HTML or Telnet commands, nor VT-100 or anything like that, nor non-ASCII characters, then it can work if you have internet, if you have a computer with a keyboard (using a telnet client, or just nc, or whatever); that is the minimal possibility. So, it is another possibility maybe; of course is not only possibility.)
marrs 5y ago
Is there any JS being used in that video at all or is it all HTTP requests?