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>MacOS specifically does terrible job at visually managing apps. I'd say that Windows traditionally did a terrible job of allowing applications to have multipl

>MacOS specifically does terrible job at visually managing apps. I'd say that Windows traditionally did a terrible job of allowing applications to have multiple documents open at once and visible on a large monitor. The traditional Windows Multiple Document Interface UI was a nightmare if you wanted to have more than one document (especially documents from more than one app) visible at once on screen. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winmsg/about-the-multiple-document-interface https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winmsg/about-... That terrible interface is the reason Windows conflates closing an app with closing a document.

whatever1 5y ago
This was abandoned like 30 years ago (Windows 95)? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/sdi-and-mdi?view=msvc-160 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/sdi-and-mdi?view=ms...
- GeekyBear 5y ago
  Yet Win32 programs still conflate closing a document with closing the application to this day.
  - whatever1 5y ago
    I do not follow. I have two excel documents open. Each is presented to the user like an independent excel app. So in my windows taskbar there will be two excel icons stacked. If I hover I will get a quick preview of all of the excel instances that are open. If I close one document the excel instance that is running that window will close too. The other instance of excel with its document will remain unaffected.
    - GeekyBear 5y ago
      Have you not noticed all the comments complaining that Macs see closing a document and closing a program as two separate things, while Windows still does not? Edit: It wasn't until Office 2007 that some Microsoft apps (but not others) started breaking the Win32 MDI UI.
cryptoz 5y ago
I remember feeling fancy as a teenager when I implemented MDI for a Windows application. Likely an HTML editor. Probably in VB6, maybe VC++. I just did it because I could and now I wonder how many big corps also did that because they could. Thanks for the nostalgia run there.

whatever1 5y ago

This was abandoned like 30 years ago (Windows 95)? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/sdi-and-mdi?view=msvc-160 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/sdi-and-mdi?view=ms...

GeekyBear 5y ago
Yet Win32 programs still conflate closing a document with closing the application to this day.
- whatever1 5y ago
  I do not follow. I have two excel documents open. Each is presented to the user like an independent excel app. So in my windows taskbar there will be two excel icons stacked. If I hover I will get a quick preview of all of the excel instances that are open. If I close one document the excel instance that is running that window will close too. The other instance of excel with its document will remain unaffected.
  - GeekyBear 5y ago
    Have you not noticed all the comments complaining that Macs see closing a document and closing a program as two separate things, while Windows still does not? Edit: It wasn't until Office 2007 that some Microsoft apps (but not others) started breaking the Win32 MDI UI.

cryptoz 5y ago

I remember feeling fancy as a teenager when I implemented MDI for a Windows application. Likely an HTML editor. Probably in VB6, maybe VC++. I just did it because I could and now I wonder how many big corps also did that because they could. Thanks for the nostalgia run there.