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I think in one of the Scandinavian countries, people cannot be charged or punished for attempted or actual escapes from prison, jail, or custody, as the desire
by FireBeyond 5y ago
I think in one of the Scandinavian countries, people cannot be charged or punished for attempted or actual escapes from prison, jail, or custody, as the desire for freedom is assumed to be a natural human motivation.
- jamesjguthrie 5y agoOne of TPB founders was on Darknet Diaries recently saying this about Sweden. I wonder if it is true.
- dahfizz 5y agoAnd the desire for power, money, or sexual gratification are not "natural"? You could justify nearly any crime by saying your motivation was "natural"
- lobocinza 5y agoTrying to escape from prison is victimless. Scams, thefts and rapes have victims. Some argue that crimes without victims like using drugs are not crimes. They, of course, could be illegal and result in fines and related but not in restrictions of liberty like imprisonment.
- dahfizz 5y ago"A victimless crime is not a crime" is a much more compelling argument than "the crime had a 'natural' motivation". I'm not arguing one way or the other whether escaping from prison should be criminalized. I'm just saying the stated argument is really bad.
- lobocinza 5y agoI agree.
- munk-a 5y agoSo if an escapee is captured again they're merely subject to serve out the remainder of their time with no time added for the attempt?
- lobocinza 5y agoIn this framework, yes. But see, even if no time is added to the sentence he may lose eligibility for early release. And he will be prosecuted for any crime committed in the process. Look, I'm not advocating for A or B. Just being descriptive.