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The code names are not the problem. Basically all companies use engineering code names so that engineers can talk about unreleased products without accidentally
by Tuna-Fish 5y ago
The code names are not the problem. Basically all companies use engineering code names so that engineers can talk about unreleased products without accidentally revealing things. And since you should not be able to divine anything about the products from them, picking random geographical features is just fine.
The problem is that their actual product naming is such a massive mess that people prefer to learn the code names instead of trying to figure out what, exactly, a i7-1165G7 is and how it relates to, say, a i5-11400H?
- mhh__ 5y agoThat too, but if the microarchitectures had a numeric identity for example (even in parallel to the xyz lake name) the route to a better numerical ID for CPU's would be easier.
- masklinn 5y agoThat's originally what the generation was. Then it became inconvenient so generations and µarchs got disconnected (because marketing, and then more marketing as they had to introduce µarch refreshes because they couldn't move through their plans)
- Zevis 5y agoI had no idea they'd gone back to 4 numbers for some of their CPUs. What does G7 even mean?
- acqq 5y agoOnly four? i5-11400H is a real name too: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/213805/intel-core-i511400h-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-50-ghz/specifications.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/213805/...
- masklinn 5y agoYes but that's the normal pattern: the historical naming was XYYY where X was the generation and YYY was the SKU. With the 10th generation, this became XXYYY, continuing the pattern.
- masklinn 5y agoGraphics Level 7. Basically a relative indication of the iGPU capabilities.
- masklinn 5y ago> The problem is that their actual product naming is such a massive mess that people prefer to learn the code names instead of trying to figure out what They actually have a guide explaining all the bits. It doesn't really matter since most of it is arbitrary and marketing (including µarch rebadging same as the GPU vendors), so even within a generation it tends to tell you very little in and of itself.
- zokier 5y agoThe problem is Intels incredible tendency to cut, slice, and dice their market into tiny slivers of segments. For example Comet Lake has 80ish SKUs listed on its wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Lake_(microprocessor) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Lake_(microprocessor) Combine this with the fact that they have completely different processor families for different segments concurrent with these, there are going to be hundreds of SKUs in total on the market at any point. I don't know if there is any sort of naming system that can salvage that to make any intuitive sense. The actual product names mostly serve to function as keys to search ARK.
- derefr 5y agoIs that Intel marketing 80 SKUs of their own volition; or is that 80 large customers each ordering a million-piece custom configuration, and then Intel figuring that, if they're going to make a part in quantity, they may as well let other people buy it if they want?
- r00fus 5y agoCompare/contrast to others e.g. Qualcomm. If Qualcomm can do this without fracturing their product line into incomprehensible gibberish then why can’t Intel?
- seoaeu 5y agoA lot of it is presumably binning [0]. They make a bunch of CPUs and check each to find the number of defective cores and the max clock speed it can run at before malfunctioning, then slap on the appropriate product number for that combination. [0]: https://www.techspot.com/article/2039-chip-binning/ https://www.techspot.com/article/2039-chip-binning/
- seoaeu 5y agoHonestly 80 models that differ by clock speed, core count, or target form factor bothers me way less than trying to figure out the difference between Comet Lake, Cascade Lake, Ice Like, Rocket Lake, etc.