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Japan has extremely good fiber connectivity. You can live in a small cottage high up on the mountainside of a small village and have the NTT monopoly get you ne

by 3np 5y ago

Japan has extremely good fiber connectivity. You can live in a small cottage high up on the mountainside of a small village and have the NTT monopoly get you near-1Gbps installed for 20,000 yen and ~5,000 per month. You can usually get cable for cheaper and even the LTE can be good enough for many.

bruxis 5y ago
I'm not sure where you have this impression from, but I can assure you that in many non-urban areas getting fiber (hikari) is a non-option. Many folks resort to LTE or WiMax to compensate, which has poor performance in general and even worse in poor weather. For context, even in Tokyo, you would be surprised at the number of apartment buildings that come with shared 100Mbit lines for 30+ units, with no way of installing faster direct lines (in large part due to owner/agency refusal).
- numpad0 5y ago
  It’s NTT policy or something to lay only single 1Gbps fiber per building, ever, so if you’re living in a single family home with nice front yard you’re forced to share the fiber with — no one else. But for 30 units apartment your connection is at mercy of 25 kids trying to download Apex Legends in background while taking remote schooling classes. If you’re desperate find a place that already has or allows Sony Nuro installation. They lay fibers given owners’ permission, whereas NTT won’t and just send you a Fast Ethernet VDSL modem(with a blue Cat.5 8P4C cable to match!)
- fomine3 5y ago
  No. 1Gbps FTTH is very common choice even in rural area. Fibre covers 98.3% of family in 2020 [1], thanks to NTT Flets. Sometimes FTTH internet in rural residence is better than VDSL or crap internet service in urban apartment because of some apartments won't allow to sign up another fibre line instead of those crap. [1] https://www.soumu.go.jp/main_content/000680621.pdf https://www.soumu.go.jp/main_content/000680621.pdf
- 3np 5y ago
  > For context, even in Tokyo, you would be surprised at the number of apartment buildings that come with shared 100Mbit lines for 30+ units, with no way of installing faster direct lines (in large part due to owner/agency refusal). This is almost always the owner/agency actually. The above discussion is in context of being the owner.
jesterson 5y ago
Agree with previous commenter - not sure where are you getting your data from. Numbers are misleading as well - set up will cost you 200,000++ ans usually a month of waiting. Fiber (hikari) + ISP will cost at least 65,000/mo. Declared speed doesn't mean anything, actual speed will be quite poor, plus they shape traffic depending on type. NTT networks are extremely congested, so speed you get will be either just ok or bad. This is all applicable to greater Tokyo. Needless to say, 4G is nothing of impressive with spot coverage, if you go mountainside.
- 3np 5y ago
  > Fiber (hikari) + ISP will cost at least 65,000/mo That's one 0 too much as long as we're talking residential/"family". Or you'd have to provide sources/quotes. I just had fiber installed (no previous connection here or to the closer neighboring houses) in a small house in a rural area. It was indeed 1.5 months of waiting, but the costs are 10% of what you're claiming.

by 3np 5y ago

bruxis 5y ago

I'm not sure where you have this impression from, but I can assure you that in many non-urban areas getting fiber (hikari) is a non-option. Many folks resort to LTE or WiMax to compensate, which has poor performance in general and even worse in poor weather. For context, even in Tokyo, you would be surprised at the number of apartment buildings that come with shared 100Mbit lines for 30+ units, with no way of installing faster direct lines (in large part due to owner/agency refusal).

numpad0 5y ago
It’s NTT policy or something to lay only single 1Gbps fiber per building, ever, so if you’re living in a single family home with nice front yard you’re forced to share the fiber with — no one else. But for 30 units apartment your connection is at mercy of 25 kids trying to download Apex Legends in background while taking remote schooling classes. If you’re desperate find a place that already has or allows Sony Nuro installation. They lay fibers given owners’ permission, whereas NTT won’t and just send you a Fast Ethernet VDSL modem(with a blue Cat.5 8P4C cable to match!)
fomine3 5y ago
No. 1Gbps FTTH is very common choice even in rural area. Fibre covers 98.3% of family in 2020 [1], thanks to NTT Flets. Sometimes FTTH internet in rural residence is better than VDSL or crap internet service in urban apartment because of some apartments won't allow to sign up another fibre line instead of those crap. [1] https://www.soumu.go.jp/main_content/000680621.pdf https://www.soumu.go.jp/main_content/000680621.pdf
3np 5y ago
> For context, even in Tokyo, you would be surprised at the number of apartment buildings that come with shared 100Mbit lines for 30+ units, with no way of installing faster direct lines (in large part due to owner/agency refusal). This is almost always the owner/agency actually. The above discussion is in context of being the owner.

jesterson 5y ago

Agree with previous commenter - not sure where are you getting your data from. Numbers are misleading as well - set up will cost you 200,000++ ans usually a month of waiting. Fiber (hikari) + ISP will cost at least 65,000/mo. Declared speed doesn't mean anything, actual speed will be quite poor, plus they shape traffic depending on type. NTT networks are extremely congested, so speed you get will be either just ok or bad. This is all applicable to greater Tokyo. Needless to say, 4G is nothing of impressive with spot coverage, if you go mountainside.

3np 5y ago
> Fiber (hikari) + ISP will cost at least 65,000/mo That's one 0 too much as long as we're talking residential/"family". Or you'd have to provide sources/quotes. I just had fiber installed (no previous connection here or to the closer neighboring houses) in a small house in a rural area. It was indeed 1.5 months of waiting, but the costs are 10% of what you're claiming.