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> If you have attached a device to my vehicle without my consent, you've forfeited ownership. Are you stating your personal take on the issue, or what the laws

> If you have attached a device to my vehicle without my consent, you've forfeited ownership. Are you stating your personal take on the issue, or what the laws and courts have decided?

DangitBobby 5y ago
My personal take.
- munk-a 5y ago
  I mentioned more details in a different comment but I think your personal take is quite wrong legally speaking - I do sympathize with where you're coming from but, if you ever find a strange device affixed to you can probably safely destroy it unless there are any clear markings indicating ownership (i.e. a giant blue badge) - and if there are feel free to forcefully return it to the police because you're uncertain if it may have been tampered with.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Like the "Made in USA" stamped on the giant underwater phone line tapping machine on Russian phone lines?
    - munk-a 5y ago
      If I found a box in my backyard that said "Property of <local> police department" - my first step would be to phone them up and ask them to remove it. If they denied that it was theirs then I'd suspect foul play. It may be a touch naive of me but I'll tend to give the benefit of the doubt to identifying tags.
      - dylan604 5y ago
        From The Wire, Prop Joe suggests to Marlow to "steal that shit." If it's local police, they'll come looking for it. If it's the feds, they'll just write it off. "steal that shit and see who comes a callin"
        rhizome 5y ago
        Record the device being smashed to pieces, then post it on YouTube (from 9000 proxies).
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a1369209993 5y ago
They're stating objective fact; the laws and courts can't 'decide' differently any more than they can decide that pi equals three or that swatting flies is murder. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that calling them on it will end well for you, but being in the right never really does.
- MaxBarraclough 5y ago
  There's a category difference here. Ownership is a social construct in a way that pi isn't.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Possession in 9/10 ownership law, right?
    - ncallaway 5y ago
      Only if the social construct of ownership is defined that way.
  - jdswain 5y ago
    Indiana Pi Bill - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
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> If you have attached a device to my vehicle without my consent, you've forfeited ownership. Are you stating your personal take on the issue, or what the laws and courts have decided?

DangitBobby 5y ago

My personal take.

munk-a 5y ago
I mentioned more details in a different comment but I think your personal take is quite wrong legally speaking - I do sympathize with where you're coming from but, if you ever find a strange device affixed to you can probably safely destroy it unless there are any clear markings indicating ownership (i.e. a giant blue badge) - and if there are feel free to forcefully return it to the police because you're uncertain if it may have been tampered with.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Like the "Made in USA" stamped on the giant underwater phone line tapping machine on Russian phone lines?
  - munk-a 5y ago
    If I found a box in my backyard that said "Property of <local> police department" - my first step would be to phone them up and ask them to remove it. If they denied that it was theirs then I'd suspect foul play. It may be a touch naive of me but I'll tend to give the benefit of the doubt to identifying tags.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      From The Wire, Prop Joe suggests to Marlow to "steal that shit." If it's local police, they'll come looking for it. If it's the feds, they'll just write it off. "steal that shit and see who comes a callin"
      - rhizome 5y ago
        Record the device being smashed to pieces, then post it on YouTube (from 9000 proxies).

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a1369209993 5y ago

They're stating objective fact; the laws and courts can't 'decide' differently any more than they can decide that pi equals three or that swatting flies is murder. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that calling them on it will end well for you, but being in the right never really does.

MaxBarraclough 5y ago
There's a category difference here. Ownership is a social construct in a way that pi isn't.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Possession in 9/10 ownership law, right?
  - ncallaway 5y ago
    Only if the social construct of ownership is defined that way.
- jdswain 5y ago
  Indiana Pi Bill - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
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