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As much as I think global unity would be nice, it reminds me of hearing that cows once their herd reaches a certain size split off into two herds [1]. If I'm re

As much as I think global unity would be nice, it reminds me of hearing that cows once their herd reaches a certain size split off into two herds [1]. If I'm remembering correctly, a mathematician, biologist and cattle farmer all saw reasons it might be good for the cows. I wouldn't be surprised if the same forces acting on the cows are acting on us. [1] https://www.stitcher.com/show/odd-lots/episode/52-what-math-models-of-herding-cows-can-teach-us-about-markets-48080146 https://www.stitcher.com/show/odd-lots/episode/52-what-math-...

warent 5y ago
I see where you're coming from, and I'm not offended by being compared to cows... that being said, this connection seems very tenuous. This is really comparing apples to oranges here
mantas 5y ago
The best example is West-based colonies in the new world. Why did Canada or Australia went their own way? Why is USA seemingly splitting apart? UK? If someone would manage to establish single world order, it's only a matter of time when it would fracture into pieces.
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  The trend is steadily towards a more inclusive global tribe over all of human history. There aren't many objective signs that this trend is reversing in any nontrivial way. It wasn't long ago that Europe was constantly engaged in warfare within itself. Compare today with 50 years ago or 150 years ago. We've arguably backslid in some places over a 20 year lookback but those backslides are fairly minor in historical context.
  - mantas 5y ago
    Not so long ago vast majority of Europe was controlled by a single extended family. Now it's gone. Roman empire collapsed. HRE collapsed. Austro-Hungary collapsed. Tsarist Russia + Soviet union collapsed. Ottoman empire collapsed. UK is still slowly collapsing. Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth went separate ways. Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia split. Roman catholic church was pretty close to superstate at it's height.
    - Jorengarenar 5y ago
      >Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth went separate ways * Was partitioned by external forces and eradicated from existence for decades.
      - mantas 5y ago
        ... and decided to not re-unite after WW1. Even though some forces did put in a lot of work behind that.

warent 5y ago

I see where you're coming from, and I'm not offended by being compared to cows... that being said, this connection seems very tenuous. This is really comparing apples to oranges here

mantas 5y ago

The best example is West-based colonies in the new world. Why did Canada or Australia went their own way? Why is USA seemingly splitting apart? UK? If someone would manage to establish single world order, it's only a matter of time when it would fracture into pieces.

fighterpilot 5y ago
The trend is steadily towards a more inclusive global tribe over all of human history. There aren't many objective signs that this trend is reversing in any nontrivial way. It wasn't long ago that Europe was constantly engaged in warfare within itself. Compare today with 50 years ago or 150 years ago. We've arguably backslid in some places over a 20 year lookback but those backslides are fairly minor in historical context.
- mantas 5y ago
  Not so long ago vast majority of Europe was controlled by a single extended family. Now it's gone. Roman empire collapsed. HRE collapsed. Austro-Hungary collapsed. Tsarist Russia + Soviet union collapsed. Ottoman empire collapsed. UK is still slowly collapsing. Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth went separate ways. Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia split. Roman catholic church was pretty close to superstate at it's height.
  - Jorengarenar 5y ago
    >Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth went separate ways * Was partitioned by external forces and eradicated from existence for decades.
    - mantas 5y ago
      ... and decided to not re-unite after WW1. Even though some forces did put in a lot of work behind that.