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You know China is not a democracy right? There’s only one organization in China with any real power and they’re the ones building the dams. The environment col
by mattmaroon 5y ago
You know China is not a democracy right? There’s only one organization in China with any real power and they’re the ones building the dams.
The environment collapsing so that it can’t support people is a pretty drastic leap from running certain fish into extinction.
- petre 5y agoThey Chinese fishing fleet is also overfishing in international waters, so don't expect the CCP to care much about driving fish into extinction. The Soviet fishing fleet also massacred a huge amount of whales just to meet dumb quotas imposed in a centrally planned economy. There was not much real demand for whale meat or oil in the Soviet Union.
- gadf 5y agoBut it's big in Japan
- boringg 5y agoI am very aware of who runs China. Which is why I asked the question - are there any organizations within China that have any real power. My suspicion is that the CCP has no real effort or interest and the lack of people able to answer with a: Yes the CCP is seriously trying to protect the environment/ecosystem/species through the following things likely speaks to the lack of interest/initiative.
- mattmaroon 5y agoThere are no organizations in China that oppose the government openly. At least not for long. The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house. The CCP cares about the environment insofar as it benefits China. They probably do not care about a fish going extinct the way we do.
- boringg 5y agoThat sounds highly suspect: "The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house."
- w7 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van PRC does not deny they exist, nor denies that organs are harvested after. There are pictures of them online, and notable cases where it was the officially recorded method of execution.
- boringg 5y agoWell that was a wikipedia link that felt ill to read. Assuming accuracy my apologies for the doubt.
- mattmaroon 5y agoNo problem, it does sound like fiction.
- boringg 5y agoDystopian fiction.
- sudosysgen 5y agoI'm going to make you feel a bit more ill - contrary to the intro of the article, the PRC did not actually invent the mobile lethal injection van in 1997. The first ever mobile lethal injection van was actually, as far I know, from Delaware in 1986 : http://www.doc.delaware.gov/deathrow/history.shtml http://www.doc.delaware.gov/deathrow/history.shtml [1] Beyond lethal injection vans, around a half dozen countries also employed gas chamber vans, with the first known example being in Nazi Germany. [1] For some reason Wikipedians came to a consensus that only Chinese execution vans should be mentioned in the article titled "Execution vans".
- xtian 5y agoThe CPC does in fact take ecology seriously. You can read about it in this translation of their latest five year plan proposal: https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/t0237_5th_Plenum_Proposal_EN-1.pdf https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/t0237_5th_Ple... If you want a concrete example showing that this isn’t just propaganda, you can look into China’s reforestation effort, through which 66 billion trees have been planted since 1978 (enabling many at-risk species to bounce back).