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Also, the competition is not against vintage analog gear. Modern analog gear is having a true Renaissance, and this community can afford to support the Wampler'

by hashkb 5y ago

Also, the competition is not against vintage analog gear. Modern analog gear is having a true Renaissance, and this community can afford to support the Wampler's of the world. I don't understand the modelling camp at all, their stuff just doesn't sound good, nor is there any joy in working with it.

Applejinx 5y ago
I feel the same but it's hell convincing the reductionists that they haven't got 'the thing, and the whole of the thing' in their little emulation. There's also another element: if you have, say, a vintage Fender Champ and a Klon (or whatever) it's because you mean to project different expressions through your string handling and note-playing. At that level you've made a best effort to produce the most emotionally transparent and responsive signal chain, which you will then not think about once you've got it turned on and tweaked: ALL the settings are liable to sound 'good' and respond for you. The modeling approach is so often "This is exactly that, but better, because here are twelve other Fender Champs and models of Klon to choose from!" and when the first claim isn't as true as we would like, and the second is a distraction and time-sink, that's not great. I can tell when I've chosen wrongly in my music-making tools, because I flat-out stop making music. Even in a dilettantish way: it just stops being a thing. That's a concern.
- crmd 5y ago
  I have this problem just with the torpedo captor x speaker simulator. At first I thought it was a game changer for apartment guitar playing. However the plethora of speaker, mic, and placement options makes me spend way too much time browsing and fussing rather than playing. I’d rather have one decent cab in a room where I can turn up the volume rather than hundreds of simulation options.
  - tigeba 5y ago
    FWIW, I have been using the Captor X as a quick tracking and editing tool. I will record the DI + Captor track. It can be a bit easier to comp the DI parts. Then later I go back and re-amp them thru my amps and speakers. I do have the benefit of a few nice amp and cabinet options and decent soundproofing, but it helps keep the ear-bleeding levels down to a minimum. That has kind of helped me avoid fiddling with Captor settings endlessly.

by hashkb 5y ago

Applejinx 5y ago

I feel the same but it's hell convincing the reductionists that they haven't got 'the thing, and the whole of the thing' in their little emulation. There's also another element: if you have, say, a vintage Fender Champ and a Klon (or whatever) it's because you mean to project different expressions through your string handling and note-playing. At that level you've made a best effort to produce the most emotionally transparent and responsive signal chain, which you will then not think about once you've got it turned on and tweaked: ALL the settings are liable to sound 'good' and respond for you. The modeling approach is so often "This is exactly that, but better, because here are twelve other Fender Champs and models of Klon to choose from!" and when the first claim isn't as true as we would like, and the second is a distraction and time-sink, that's not great. I can tell when I've chosen wrongly in my music-making tools, because I flat-out stop making music. Even in a dilettantish way: it just stops being a thing. That's a concern.

crmd 5y ago
I have this problem just with the torpedo captor x speaker simulator. At first I thought it was a game changer for apartment guitar playing. However the plethora of speaker, mic, and placement options makes me spend way too much time browsing and fussing rather than playing. I’d rather have one decent cab in a room where I can turn up the volume rather than hundreds of simulation options.
- tigeba 5y ago
  FWIW, I have been using the Captor X as a quick tracking and editing tool. I will record the DI + Captor track. It can be a bit easier to comp the DI parts. Then later I go back and re-amp them thru my amps and speakers. I do have the benefit of a few nice amp and cabinet options and decent soundproofing, but it helps keep the ear-bleeding levels down to a minimum. That has kind of helped me avoid fiddling with Captor settings endlessly.