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I find it very dishonest that your only reply to me is to down vote me. By doing so I believe strongly that you're abusing your down voting powers.

dijit 5y ago
I can't downvote direct replies, it's not a feature that is available on this site, you'll notice the downvote button is missing for you on this comment of mine. That must be someone(s) else downvote. You can see it for me here: https://i.imgur.com/yOYpyEH.png https://i.imgur.com/yOYpyEH.png I believe you were downvoted because I cited a prominent anti-EU party that is gaining popularity and you decided to just dismiss it, which is intellectually dishonest. If there was no other argument, this would be enough to claim "anti-EU sentiment is on the rise" as it is a _core_ policy of their party and featured prominently on their website; in fact it's the only policy that has it's own link in the top banner, a vote for SD is a vote against the EU. Unequivocally. Of course my experiences with people from the Skane region are anecdotes, and you could have argued that point, but you didn't. You instead chose to point out that the article I selected was an opinion piece, and claimed your own anecdote that you had never heard of "SWEXIT". If you would prefer I can walk the streets of Malmo and look for anti-EU stickers, there are many. But I can't convince you of this I don't think. We don't poll people on EU sentiment, in fact the last vote that Sweden had on it was 27 years ago and "become an EU member" won at only 52% of the vote or something. The 2003 referendum on joining the euro resulted in the murder of a politician, though I'm not entirely sure that's related to the referendum, only that it affected the referenum. It's absolutely fair to say the Swedish people are not entirely unified on their vision of the EU.
- kreeben 5y ago
  "I can't downvote direct replies" IC. Did not realize this until now. My apologies for that baseless claim. "It's absolutely fair to say the Swedish people are not entirely unified on their vision of the EU." Always has been. Your original claim was: "anti-EU support is on the rise". I argue this is a baseless claim.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > Your original claim was: "anti-EU support is on the rise". I argue this is a baseless claim. But you argue that on even less evidence than he does. He has at least some anecdotal evidence; you have presented none at all.

dijit 5y ago

I can't downvote direct replies, it's not a feature that is available on this site, you'll notice the downvote button is missing for you on this comment of mine. That must be someone(s) else downvote. You can see it for me here: https://i.imgur.com/yOYpyEH.png https://i.imgur.com/yOYpyEH.png I believe you were downvoted because I cited a prominent anti-EU party that is gaining popularity and you decided to just dismiss it, which is intellectually dishonest. If there was no other argument, this would be enough to claim "anti-EU sentiment is on the rise" as it is a _core_ policy of their party and featured prominently on their website; in fact it's the only policy that has it's own link in the top banner, a vote for SD is a vote against the EU. Unequivocally. Of course my experiences with people from the Skane region are anecdotes, and you could have argued that point, but you didn't. You instead chose to point out that the article I selected was an opinion piece, and claimed your own anecdote that you had never heard of "SWEXIT". If you would prefer I can walk the streets of Malmo and look for anti-EU stickers, there are many. But I can't convince you of this I don't think. We don't poll people on EU sentiment, in fact the last vote that Sweden had on it was 27 years ago and "become an EU member" won at only 52% of the vote or something. The 2003 referendum on joining the euro resulted in the murder of a politician, though I'm not entirely sure that's related to the referendum, only that it affected the referenum. It's absolutely fair to say the Swedish people are not entirely unified on their vision of the EU.

kreeben 5y ago
"I can't downvote direct replies" IC. Did not realize this until now. My apologies for that baseless claim. "It's absolutely fair to say the Swedish people are not entirely unified on their vision of the EU." Always has been. Your original claim was: "anti-EU support is on the rise". I argue this is a baseless claim.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Your original claim was: "anti-EU support is on the rise". I argue this is a baseless claim. But you argue that on even less evidence than he does. He has at least some anecdotal evidence; you have presented none at all.