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Especially those driving their Honda Civics with the special BRAAAAP exhausts when they accelerate in my street just after the speed bump only to then jump on t

Especially those driving their Honda Civics with the special BRAAAAP exhausts when they accelerate in my street just after the speed bump only to then jump on the squeaky brakes for the stop sign a few meters further. That really annoys me.

sandworm101 5y ago
>> just after the speed bump only to then jump on the squeaky brakes for the stop sign a few meters further. Speed bumps and stops signs annoy me too. Get rid of those, reduce the unnecessary acceleration/braking, and such cars should sail by quietly.
- carlhjerpe 5y ago
  https://files.edeva.se/brochures/english/evaluation_lkpg_en.pdf https://files.edeva.se/brochures/english/evaluation_lkpg_en.... I wouldn't say stop signs are bad, they're put there for a reason. Speed bumps however force you to slow down way below the allowed speed, then while you're on the pedal you might just accelerat back to whatever speed. The actibump in Linköping, Sweden solves this by only being in the way if you drive too fast. Used to live next to one of these, worked like a charm.
  - burntoutfire 5y ago
    For some reason the US is completely in love with the stop signs in places. They are very frequently used in places where European countries would just put the "yield" sign.
    - carlhjerpe 5y ago
      I feel bad that my first thought is because it's easier for the cops to fill their ticket quota with stop signs in stupid places people would probably ignore.
      - actually_a_dog 5y ago
        People ignore stop signs everywhere, IME. Best case, they slow way down and yield; worst case, they just blow through it entirely. I've even seen cops roll through stop signs. Nobody actually stops unless they would physically hit something if they didn't, and few use turn signals if they're going to turn. It's maddening as a pedestrian.
    - drdavid 5y ago
      My company modeled traffic before I sold it. Roundabouts (or 'rotaries', depending on where you live) and yield signs could do a whole lot to reduce travel times and increase efficiency by a surprisingly large amount. The problems are numerous, but mostly the urban areas weren't designed for such, the costs to switch would be large, and the American driver can take up to six years to adjust to a new traffic pattern.
      - Mountain_Skies 5y ago
        My rural county has gone wild for roundabouts. It appears we got a new traffic engineer about five years ago and they've set about to make as many roundabouts as possible. We even have a double roundabout now. I'm surprised by how little controversy it created and how quickly everyone adapted. I can only think of one that hasn't worked out well and that's because traffic from a very close Chick-fil-a ends up back up into the roundabout and clogging it up. Due to the rural/exurban character of the area, space for roundabouts isn't much of an issue. I suspect lots of other similar counties could do the same with similar results but it takes someone in the planning office to take the chance on doing it. Also it takes money so from a fiscal point of view, it's best to redo intersections when they're already scheduled for being repaved or they're having capacity issues that need to be addressed.
        sandworm101 5y ago
        My rural area has rules against roundabouts. Depending on dimensions, they can be difficult for large farm machinery to negotiate. And in in the winter they are more difficult to plow.
        kwhitefoot 5y ago
        That's strange. We have lots of roundabouts here in Norway and the farmers don't have any problems, nor the snow ploughs. Perhaps ours are a different design?
        bradstewart 5y ago
  - mlok 5y ago
    I didn't know about actibump thank you. I have long wanted to see solutions like this (although I would have loved it to be low tech : some clever engineering device that would mechanically make a bump if speed is too high) I wish they were more common. https://dai.ly/x4nt0sd https://dai.ly/x4nt0sd
- b3morales 5y ago
  You don't need to brake to go over a speed bump if you're already going slowly enough, and there's no reason either way to immediately accelerate up to the end of the street where you're just going to have to slow again, regardless of the signing.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    Speed bumps in the US are frequently built at such an obnoxious level that you have to slow down below the speed limit in order to get past them decently. In my car - I have to frequently take them at an angle unless I want to scrape (comes from the factory that way) - even then, it's not bullet proof. Especially in parking lots where there are no rules - I've scrapped the middle section of my car because they built them for lifted vehicles. If the goal is to reduce speed - it kind of works - but it adds the extra layer of obnoxious noise which basically kills any of the benefits IMO. On top of this - you now have people introducing far more brake dust and tire material into your local environment because everyone has to slow down to cross a speed bump and then accelerate again too. If we had speed bumps on my street - I'd be advocating for them to be removed. They're burdensome on the locals due to the noise pollution they create. You want a loud vehicle to get by as fast as possible and with as little throttle as possible. Nothing worse than hearing it crawl over multiple speed bumps.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      > Speed bumps in the US are frequently built at such an obnoxious level that you have to slow down below the speed limit in order to get past them decently. Blame truck and SUV drivers. Speed bumps must be designed to slow the largest vehicle down to a safe speed, thus harming lighter and less off-road capable vehicles more.
      - jjeaff 5y ago
        We have some ridiculously high ones in my neighborhood. In my car, I have to come to a complete stop and then roll over it very slowly to keep from dragging. In my pickup, I have found that it is much smoother to speed up and hit them faster so that the shocks engage and it causes much less of a bump in the cabin than if I slow down.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  Are you seriously suggesting make streets more dangerous for pedestrians so that self absorbed <explicative removed> with noisy cars can enjoy them more quietly? How about we instead regulate the noise cars make and not purposefully disable road safety features. That way we can enjoy quiet roads without asking other people to risk their lives for it.
  - andrepd 5y ago
    Some people don't even realise the tremendous cost cars have on a huge array of things in our lives. This is mostly due to just how ingrained it is in our culture.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      I always joke that cars turn people into sociopaths, but sometimes I no longer think it’s a joke.
rainbowzootsuit 5y ago
"You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or somebody, so that's like an alarm clock!" —Bubb Rubb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0
sunkenvicar 5y ago
Trade the speed bumps in for narrower lanes.

sandworm101 5y ago

>> just after the speed bump only to then jump on the squeaky brakes for the stop sign a few meters further. Speed bumps and stops signs annoy me too. Get rid of those, reduce the unnecessary acceleration/braking, and such cars should sail by quietly.

carlhjerpe 5y ago
https://files.edeva.se/brochures/english/evaluation_lkpg_en.pdf https://files.edeva.se/brochures/english/evaluation_lkpg_en.... I wouldn't say stop signs are bad, they're put there for a reason. Speed bumps however force you to slow down way below the allowed speed, then while you're on the pedal you might just accelerat back to whatever speed. The actibump in Linköping, Sweden solves this by only being in the way if you drive too fast. Used to live next to one of these, worked like a charm.
- burntoutfire 5y ago
  For some reason the US is completely in love with the stop signs in places. They are very frequently used in places where European countries would just put the "yield" sign.
  - carlhjerpe 5y ago
    I feel bad that my first thought is because it's easier for the cops to fill their ticket quota with stop signs in stupid places people would probably ignore.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      People ignore stop signs everywhere, IME. Best case, they slow way down and yield; worst case, they just blow through it entirely. I've even seen cops roll through stop signs. Nobody actually stops unless they would physically hit something if they didn't, and few use turn signals if they're going to turn. It's maddening as a pedestrian.
  - drdavid 5y ago
    My company modeled traffic before I sold it. Roundabouts (or 'rotaries', depending on where you live) and yield signs could do a whole lot to reduce travel times and increase efficiency by a surprisingly large amount. The problems are numerous, but mostly the urban areas weren't designed for such, the costs to switch would be large, and the American driver can take up to six years to adjust to a new traffic pattern.
    - Mountain_Skies 5y ago
      My rural county has gone wild for roundabouts. It appears we got a new traffic engineer about five years ago and they've set about to make as many roundabouts as possible. We even have a double roundabout now. I'm surprised by how little controversy it created and how quickly everyone adapted. I can only think of one that hasn't worked out well and that's because traffic from a very close Chick-fil-a ends up back up into the roundabout and clogging it up. Due to the rural/exurban character of the area, space for roundabouts isn't much of an issue. I suspect lots of other similar counties could do the same with similar results but it takes someone in the planning office to take the chance on doing it. Also it takes money so from a fiscal point of view, it's best to redo intersections when they're already scheduled for being repaved or they're having capacity issues that need to be addressed.
      - sandworm101 5y ago
        My rural area has rules against roundabouts. Depending on dimensions, they can be difficult for large farm machinery to negotiate. And in in the winter they are more difficult to plow.
        kwhitefoot 5y ago
        That's strange. We have lots of roundabouts here in Norway and the farmers don't have any problems, nor the snow ploughs. Perhaps ours are a different design?
        bradstewart 5y ago
- mlok 5y ago
  I didn't know about actibump thank you. I have long wanted to see solutions like this (although I would have loved it to be low tech : some clever engineering device that would mechanically make a bump if speed is too high) I wish they were more common. https://dai.ly/x4nt0sd https://dai.ly/x4nt0sd
b3morales 5y ago
You don't need to brake to go over a speed bump if you're already going slowly enough, and there's no reason either way to immediately accelerate up to the end of the street where you're just going to have to slow again, regardless of the signing.
- bradlys 5y ago
  Speed bumps in the US are frequently built at such an obnoxious level that you have to slow down below the speed limit in order to get past them decently. In my car - I have to frequently take them at an angle unless I want to scrape (comes from the factory that way) - even then, it's not bullet proof. Especially in parking lots where there are no rules - I've scrapped the middle section of my car because they built them for lifted vehicles. If the goal is to reduce speed - it kind of works - but it adds the extra layer of obnoxious noise which basically kills any of the benefits IMO. On top of this - you now have people introducing far more brake dust and tire material into your local environment because everyone has to slow down to cross a speed bump and then accelerate again too. If we had speed bumps on my street - I'd be advocating for them to be removed. They're burdensome on the locals due to the noise pollution they create. You want a loud vehicle to get by as fast as possible and with as little throttle as possible. Nothing worse than hearing it crawl over multiple speed bumps.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    > Speed bumps in the US are frequently built at such an obnoxious level that you have to slow down below the speed limit in order to get past them decently. Blame truck and SUV drivers. Speed bumps must be designed to slow the largest vehicle down to a safe speed, thus harming lighter and less off-road capable vehicles more.
    - jjeaff 5y ago
      We have some ridiculously high ones in my neighborhood. In my car, I have to come to a complete stop and then roll over it very slowly to keep from dragging. In my pickup, I have found that it is much smoother to speed up and hit them faster so that the shocks engage and it causes much less of a bump in the cabin than if I slow down.
ashtonkem 5y ago
Are you seriously suggesting make streets more dangerous for pedestrians so that self absorbed <explicative removed> with noisy cars can enjoy them more quietly? How about we instead regulate the noise cars make and not purposefully disable road safety features. That way we can enjoy quiet roads without asking other people to risk their lives for it.
- andrepd 5y ago
  Some people don't even realise the tremendous cost cars have on a huge array of things in our lives. This is mostly due to just how ingrained it is in our culture.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    I always joke that cars turn people into sociopaths, but sometimes I no longer think it’s a joke.

rainbowzootsuit 5y ago

"You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or somebody, so that's like an alarm clock!" —Bubb Rubb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0

sunkenvicar 5y ago

Trade the speed bumps in for narrower lanes.