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To be fair, the article is tagged "racism", and you explicitly refer to the design as "bigotry". > They just designed, built, or perpetuated a system which was
by snakeboy 5y ago
To be fair, the article is tagged "racism", and you explicitly refer to the design as "bigotry".
> They just designed, built, or perpetuated a system which was exclusionary.
I understand that this is an accepted definition for racism these days. But bigotry still implies intent, doesn't it? 'Rude', as you put it later on, seems like a reasonable description, but I'm not really seeing any 'bigotry'.
- edent 5y agoThe dictionary definition of bigotry is the "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." I think it is unreasonable to believe that no one has "unusual" characters in their name. And I also think that pre-judging people for belonging to a group with accented names, is discriminatory. I'm not saying the people who designed this form go out at night shouting racist abuse at people. I'm saying that - through action or inaction - they are displaying their their bigotry.
- snakeboy 5y agoSo if in your opinion the designer is both racist and a bigot, why do you hold back from calling them a "racist bigot" ?
- pseudalopex 5y agoYou're turning a discussion about what someone did into a discussion about who they are.[1] [1] https://youtu.be/b0Ti-gkJiXc https://youtu.be/b0Ti-gkJiXc
- snakeboy 5y agoGood video, and you have a fair point. Thanks for sharing. I guess my real issue with the OP's language is that "bigotry" is a pretty charged term that necessarily crosses into a "who they are" conversation.
- pseudalopex 5y agoThanks for keeping your mind open. I think racism is just as charged. Don't you?
- snakeboy 5y agoPersonally, I do - but I accept that the commonly-held definition has shifted to diverge from mine in the last few years. I don't think "bigotry" has had that shift. For example, I think "naive" is a similar word in that it necessarily implies a characterization of the person beyond the action itself.