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Killed, or just unreported? Probably both, but I guess more unreported.

hutzlibu 5y ago
Can you raise a unreported child in china? How would that work? With no papers at all and the communist buerocrats also really likes paper about everything. ?
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  https://thediplomat.com/2015/03/chinas-hidden-children/ https://thediplomat.com/2015/03/chinas-hidden-children/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30/researchers-may-have-found-many-of-chinas-30-million-missing-girls/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30... It's also China, where they put toxic stuff in watered down milk to make it look as foamy as protein-rich good milk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal , i.e. a place with a lot of corruption and where gaps are possible.
  - alisonkisk 5y ago
    Are you suggesting that China is somehow unusual in poisoning the populace? Are you aware of Superfund? Nestle, who convinced mother's to starve and poison their babies with formula and dirty water that replaced and then blocked lactation?
  - MandieD 5y ago
    Up until Covid stopped business travel, my Chinese colleagues brought home as much infant formula or follow up milk powder for toddlers as they thought they could get away with when visiting HQ in Germany, and always asked us to bring some with us when we went there. Lots of stores here had limits on how much you could buy at once because of that.
  - whoevercares 5y ago
    It’s just matter of couple hundreds RMB “pay the toll”
- mcculley 5y ago
  I am amused at the phrase "communist buerocrats [sic]". I live in the United States, where a particular bastard hybrid of socialism and crony capitalism requires that every birth be well documented by bureaucrats.
  - kspacewalk2 5y ago
    Are you railing against registering births? Which country doesn't do that? Somalia?
    - mcculley 5y ago
      I am not against it at all. I am amused that anyone would think that only “communists” have bureaucracy.
  - yardie 5y ago
    It has less to do with socialism and cronyism and everything to do with your rights. Your birth certificate is your primary evidence of citizenship. Literally every right you enjoy springs from that one document.
    - mcculley 5y ago
      I get that. I am amused that anyone would think that only “communists” have bureaucracy.
      - hutzlibu 5y ago
        Maybe I don't actually think that and just refered to their special kind of buerocrats? I sort of hate buerocracy in all its shapes, but given the choice between a western style buerocrat and a marxist buerocrat, I choose the former.
        mcculley 5y ago
        I am not capable of reading thoughts. I was reading the words you wrote. Now I am more amused at the notion that modern China is Marxist.
- newdude116 5y ago
  Yes you can. Money goes a long way there. Buddy of mine had two, one was illegal. When they make a law that you can have two, he made a third. I guess he will make a 4th now to send a clear message to the government :-)
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    But the children still have papers, so are not unreported, right? There just was bribery or fine, but they still are registeredin the system? Or are they fake papers they have?

Can you raise a unreported child in china? How would that work? With no papers at all and the communist buerocrats also really likes paper about everything. ?

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
https://thediplomat.com/2015/03/chinas-hidden-children/ https://thediplomat.com/2015/03/chinas-hidden-children/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30/researchers-may-have-found-many-of-chinas-30-million-missing-girls/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30... It's also China, where they put toxic stuff in watered down milk to make it look as foamy as protein-rich good milk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal , i.e. a place with a lot of corruption and where gaps are possible.
- alisonkisk 5y ago
  Are you suggesting that China is somehow unusual in poisoning the populace? Are you aware of Superfund? Nestle, who convinced mother's to starve and poison their babies with formula and dirty water that replaced and then blocked lactation?
- MandieD 5y ago
  Up until Covid stopped business travel, my Chinese colleagues brought home as much infant formula or follow up milk powder for toddlers as they thought they could get away with when visiting HQ in Germany, and always asked us to bring some with us when we went there. Lots of stores here had limits on how much you could buy at once because of that.
- whoevercares 5y ago
  It’s just matter of couple hundreds RMB “pay the toll”
mcculley 5y ago
I am amused at the phrase "communist buerocrats [sic]". I live in the United States, where a particular bastard hybrid of socialism and crony capitalism requires that every birth be well documented by bureaucrats.
- kspacewalk2 5y ago
  Are you railing against registering births? Which country doesn't do that? Somalia?
  - mcculley 5y ago
    I am not against it at all. I am amused that anyone would think that only “communists” have bureaucracy.
- yardie 5y ago
  It has less to do with socialism and cronyism and everything to do with your rights. Your birth certificate is your primary evidence of citizenship. Literally every right you enjoy springs from that one document.
  - mcculley 5y ago
    I get that. I am amused that anyone would think that only “communists” have bureaucracy.
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      Maybe I don't actually think that and just refered to their special kind of buerocrats? I sort of hate buerocracy in all its shapes, but given the choice between a western style buerocrat and a marxist buerocrat, I choose the former.
      - mcculley 5y ago
        I am not capable of reading thoughts. I was reading the words you wrote. Now I am more amused at the notion that modern China is Marxist.
newdude116 5y ago
Yes you can. Money goes a long way there. Buddy of mine had two, one was illegal. When they make a law that you can have two, he made a third. I guess he will make a 4th now to send a clear message to the government :-)
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  But the children still have papers, so are not unreported, right? There just was bribery or fine, but they still are registeredin the system? Or are they fake papers they have?