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That would be really hard to manifest realistically. This would need - on one end some government agency that hands out copyright fees based on some very comple

That would be really hard to manifest realistically. This would need - on one end some government agency that hands out copyright fees based on some very complex calculations on listening stats, scraped from all the internet? Lots of abuse possibility and even less influence for small creators - on the other, quality apps and services that would compete with Spotify... with almost no financial gain? Look at the open source world, licenses were never an issue for p2p services to advance, and what streaming options do we have? Subsonic, Plex, Funkwhale don't even come close to Spotify functionality, and we didn't even mentioned where the content comes from. I'm all for open content protocols and services, it's just historically reasonable that corporate solutions appear first. Once these are established, with proper shifts in copyright system, open solutions could build on their learnings.

southerntofu 5y ago
> on one end some government agency that hands out copyright fees based on some very complex calculations on listening stats, scraped from all the internet? Yes that's why i'm mostly opposed to a global license. It's broken by design because it's a capitalist proposal. Artists need to live well, but so do other folks (free software devs, cooks, etc..) so this is a problem to be solved as a whole and not to be approached for each individual branch. > Funkwhale don't even come close to Spotify functionality Funkwhale looks pretty cool. Need to try that out! > it's just historically reasonable that corporate solutions appear first I don't believe that was the case so much. I mean spotify and youtube were born as pseudo-pirate platforms where nobody cared at all about copyright until maybe 5y ago? 10y ago? They couldn't have grown at all if they played by the book (because no editor would have licensed their works to a tiny platform like theirs). And i don't know about your local context but i know for sure here in France Bittorrent was REALLY popular, everybody was using it and that's why they passed laws like the HADOPI. They knew they couldn't control the Bittorrent network so they started to threaten people with fines so they would move to streaming platforms, to a passive consumption model where it's easier to sell them subscriptions. It's only because law enforcement went after non-profit p2p initiatives (and even for-profit ones like Napster) that platforms like Spotify could emerge at all. I'm not sure what the morale of the story is. I'm just sure we're doing everything wrong as a society. The best artists are starving while the worst are raking millions of €€€ in. We keep producing useless hardware/software that'll be obsolete/broken by next year, and we keep on destroying our own planet so that the next generation will have to fight for drinkable water. All in all, copyright is not my biggest concern. It's just a symptom of our fucked up capitalist society.

southerntofu 5y ago

> on one end some government agency that hands out copyright fees based on some very complex calculations on listening stats, scraped from all the internet? Yes that's why i'm mostly opposed to a global license. It's broken by design because it's a capitalist proposal. Artists need to live well, but so do other folks (free software devs, cooks, etc..) so this is a problem to be solved as a whole and not to be approached for each individual branch. > Funkwhale don't even come close to Spotify functionality Funkwhale looks pretty cool. Need to try that out! > it's just historically reasonable that corporate solutions appear first I don't believe that was the case so much. I mean spotify and youtube were born as pseudo-pirate platforms where nobody cared at all about copyright until maybe 5y ago? 10y ago? They couldn't have grown at all if they played by the book (because no editor would have licensed their works to a tiny platform like theirs). And i don't know about your local context but i know for sure here in France Bittorrent was REALLY popular, everybody was using it and that's why they passed laws like the HADOPI. They knew they couldn't control the Bittorrent network so they started to threaten people with fines so they would move to streaming platforms, to a passive consumption model where it's easier to sell them subscriptions. It's only because law enforcement went after non-profit p2p initiatives (and even for-profit ones like Napster) that platforms like Spotify could emerge at all. I'm not sure what the morale of the story is. I'm just sure we're doing everything wrong as a society. The best artists are starving while the worst are raking millions of €€€ in. We keep producing useless hardware/software that'll be obsolete/broken by next year, and we keep on destroying our own planet so that the next generation will have to fight for drinkable water. All in all, copyright is not my biggest concern. It's just a symptom of our fucked up capitalist society.